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hagis:
ah ok,. but I still think what you're suggesting in terms of trying to remove content and make it seem like new content elsewhere is probably not right (really you are moving content - so redirection still seems best plan)

 lets say the content from the old site is a subset of what will be on the new site?

how about this,. (I will make up example)


www.oldsite.com/faq-stuff/faq1
www.oldsite.com/faq-stuff/faq2
www.oldsite.com/faq-stuff/faq3
etc

www.newsite.com/newcontent1
www.newsite.com/newcontent2
etc

have a subdomain on the newsite

faq.newsite.com/faq1
faq.newsite.com/faq2

then 301 redirect the www.oldsite.com/faq-stuff/faq1 to faq.newsite.com/faq1

that way you invent a 3rd place,. so www.newsite.com is seen as new content with a fresh start at google and the faq.newsite.com is related but won't suffer duplicate content (because it's been 301 redirected)

or just a new 3rd site,. so

oldsite.com
newsite.com
namerelatedtonewsite.com


using 301 redirects and keeping those redirects in for as long as possible,. have sites with 301s from old pages and they are still crawled like years after they were redirected

hagis:
I don't think it's as good as a 301 - but you can (in theory) use a canonical tag to point to the new domain (ick!) :)

https://powerdigitalmarketing.com/blog/using-relcanonical-tag/

https://www.shopify.co.uk/partners/blog/canonical-urls

hellfire:
Thanks a ton Hagis for taking your time to help me out :) The canonical idea was in my head and indeed the new site will have each of the 55 products marked as canonical.

The example you suggested is very interesting indeed :) The issue is that they are products which cannot be put in subdomain or another related site. But excellent example and surely I will think to implement this in other projects.

Regarding the 301, I am only worried about linking the new site with the old site because the owner did not take care of SEO during 1 year when he abandoned the project (Covid effect). So, he did a lot of crap like putting site in maintenance etc  for long periods, ignored seo fixes suggested by google  etc.

So, I wanted him to start new and not link the fresh domain with old misdeeds lol. Today we submitted a temporary removal for the whole old site. To make it permanent , I can either give a 401 gone or redirect as you suggested.

If I go ahead with my steps, is there any risk from google other than losing entire old site's SEO/page rank etc?

The new site will have 100s of new products in addition to the old 55. I even thought of remixing the product descriptions a bit to give freshness (Will charge for sure lol).

@jp --> good idea to fund my VR occulus ;) . The covid period locked up a ton of my capital in projects which I will now need to revive. So, thankfully I hope to see better days in a few months ;) But man covid kicked the projects in the nuts lol

@sup--301 is the right way as Hagis pointed out ;) Good for you.

Cheers,
Hellfire

hagis:
ah if it's product pages / shop site and these are shop items,. I don't think I'd concern over duplicate content quite so much

so if it was a load of unique text linked from loads of places for an authority type site / page is different  thing with duplicate content

shop items though,. loads of stuff is sold across multiple sites and duplicated because different stores sell the same item,. in that regard duplicates are probably less of a problem

I would still use 301s,. like you say perhaps the old site hasn't got much rank or whatever but google (my opinion) likes web people who care about broken links etc and care put into redirects shows you umm care :)

zeus:
A DIVINE INTERVENTION IS NEEDED

MAY I RECOMMEND HTTP 308 AS PER https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42136829/whats-the-difference-between-http-301-and-308-status-codes/42138726#42138726

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