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Blub:
True, we got a little carried away and lost focus on the overall goal. ;D

tirofijo!!:
Hi Plaka! congratulations! im a sociologist too, and i finished my master degree this year, i can tell u that as sociologysts, we tend to generalisate a lot, our field need to do that in some way to get data, but here we have a small community, will be interesting to make a field research.... lol
Btw there are many researchs about videogames in sociology, use science hub to look them, most in english, and remember that in final line, we deal with the material conditions over the subjetives one, i will be more prone to say that in videogames the personal beahvior has few to do with country, i will think of it more related to the hardware and economic reality behind it than social generalisations, im talking about alllll videogames not only UT, but for example i have many concerns about ping and quality of the player, even if we have some great players with high ping as Sup, or great aim like Loon (great aim but no usefull for team)... anyway this is gigantic topic and i have already write too much, see you in the warfield comrade sociologyst! :D

tirofijo!!:
generalize* forgive my english... im lacking practice

tirofijo!!:

--- Quote from: duke on September 26, 2022, 19:38 ---I don't know how you guys come up with this, there is some truth to it, but not enough data to come up to any sensible conclusions. The examples that you gave:
1) Italians defend - that's mostly Rounin, hahahahate snipes, Unclegrandma just jumps around aimlessly
2) USA attacks - Dead_Dredd I'd agree, but Kyhado - plays midfield (leaning towards defence), AN - plays midfield, SaintHappening is mostly on defence, FlipFlopKerry mixes it up. If there's one country with an attacking mentality I would say it's Poland - our 4 best players - Plakatowy, Belial, ESCOBAR, myself - we are pretty much all on attack 90%+ of the time. And btw Kuha - I'm the one one who complains a lot, but the vast majority of time it's aimed at my own team for not doing crap. Having said that we are known for complaining a lot xD Blame the weather xD

Piglet:
(FI) - remarkably good aims. Not very chatty - isn't that just Kuha? And he chats a lot too xD
(FR) - France has some of the best attackers, I agree, but there are so many players and I can name from each group - stephanie, Paco on attack, HellFire midfield, corsica sniping, MasterofPuppets, moi on defence

This is the way I see it:
Snipers/campers = people who hate taking risks and want to feel good about themselves despite not adding anything to the table most of the time, probably gives them the illusion that they are helping the team and in reality they are just extremely annoying and nothing else. In investing = people who keep their money in their socks or buy bonds ;D
People who defend = really responsible players and pretty much the core strength of the team. You could have the best 3 attackers in the game, without a proper defence they will most likely lose. Defenders - tacticians, often not too flashy, but getting the job done. Great defence = great foundations of the team. In investing = people who buy index funds ;D
People who attack = people who like taking risks, get bored fast, like to have fun even despite losing their dignity, are not a fan of teamwork and like to work alone (and Sup, that's not selfish - you can't call people who cap multiple times per map selfish, they are the reason the scoreboard is even moving). In investing = people who buy crypto or play stocks with high leverage ;D

If we go further I've noticed (but again, it's a small sample) that girls most often like to defend than attack. Draugr, Vasabi, HLK 7 I believe are pretty much on defence all the time (and use flak as their main weapon), Risel is kinda playing midfield leaning towards defence unless there's a manta on a map in which she's on attack a lot, tirofijo plays midfield a bit too and can attack once or twice per map depending on the circumstances

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naaaah i don think soo, im totally atacker, hate to defend i suck at it, maybe because i usually dont have time to wait atackers-----

Plakatowy:
Coming back to the topic, I have such a small reflection - in fact, Soma and Killer made me aware of it - we often "argue" in the chat about why I did not use a raptor/manta to save our flag. I am writing this not because of me it hurts, but I think that the very perception of vehicles or even the strategies themselves is conditioned by ... something.

In Poland, we often use the saying "The best defense is a good offensive" - ​​as we read in the sources, George Washington, Machiavelli and Sun Tzu wrote about it. When the opponent steals our flag, I think that then the enemy base is empty, because the opposing team is trying to cover the person running with our flag. Of course, if you read this, you probably won't agree - it's natural. The fact that your view of it is different indicates certain conditions (differences) between us, which may result from the origin of each of us.

This is all I would like to add from myself; the society in the world is very diverse (and therefore beautiful!), the players in games are like painters who seem to create a mosaic - the team whose final image is more coherent wins.  :)

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