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Freon - balance, bio-camping, classic maps - others (discuss)
Miauz55555:
KK, but don't compain when players abuse the bio thaw than.
Jozz:
Is it intentional that the bio thaw doesn't complete if the last player standing dies in the bio hit? The corpse shows 100% health but doesn't respawn.
It would for instance if a corpse was pushed into lava, even after the last player dies..
nyrde:
I think almoust all weapons are OP depending on the situation. Full rox in tight corners, shock combo on medium range, lg hs (but lg hs is really rare I have a good aim and I usually only get smth like 3 hs per mach). But I think the difference is that they still work as intented and the bio is hugely different in Freon than in other game types. There are no static corpses you can use to get easy kills in death match. The bio is "well balanced" to targets that can move. So IMO some nerfing to bio is OK, but not too much. Because I still think that bio camp is part of Freon. Maybe 25% is still abit too much, if I am correct, it is 52 hp so it is 36% of full thaw. I would but it to 17% so it is 25% of 145 hp, full thaw. So four full bio would be a full thaw. But this is smth probably that must be tested.
holyspam:
--- Quote from: nyrde on March 23, 2023, 15:28 ---I think almoust all weapons are OP depending on the situation. Full rox in tight corners, shock combo on medium range, lg hs (but lg hs is really rare I have a good aim and I usually only get smth like 3 hs per mach). But I think the difference is that they still work as intented and the bio is hugely different in Freon than in other game types. There are no static corpses you can use to get easy kills in death match. The bio is "well balanced" to targets that can move. So IMO some nerfing to bio is OK, but not too much. Because I still think that bio camp is part of Freon. Maybe 25% is still abit too much, if I am correct, it is 52 hp so it is 36% of full thaw. I would but it to 17% so it is 25% of 145 hp, full thaw. So four full bio would be a full thaw. But this is smth probably that must be tested.
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I think frozen thaw health is calculated as 1HP = 1%
The idea to thaw people with bio is good, until people who are big natural [censored] abuse it to thaw enemies...so they can...
1. ruin their own game?
2. ruin others' game?
3. ruin everyone's game?
4. love playing the victim when you argue/kick/force-spec them?
5. all of the above?
Maybe we should add some very useful counters in the game.
1. Time spent afk per game while alive, double if typing.
2. Deaths while in afk mode per game
3. Enemy thaws using bio/lava per game
4. Number of times they switched to spec/left the game and back to game in under 60seconds
Then put the high scorers alone in a room with kops.
nyrde:
--- Quote from: nyrde on March 23, 2023, 15:28 ---I think almoust all weapons are OP depending on the situation. Full rox in tight corners, shock combo on medium range, lg hs (but lg hs is really rare I have a good aim and I usually only get smth like 3 hs per mach). But I think the difference is that they still work as intented and the bio is hugely different in Freon than in other game types. There are no static corpses you can use to get easy kills in death match. The bio is "well balanced" to targets that can move. So IMO some nerfing to bio is OK, but not too much. Because I still think that bio camp is part of Freon. Maybe 25% is still abit too much, if I am correct, it is 52 hp so it is 36% of full thaw. I would but it to 17% so it is 25% of 145 hp, full thaw. So four full bio would be a full thaw. But this is smth probably that must be tested.
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Okei maybe I was bit of... 3 Hs in a map if I am lucky, but not every map. And sometimes I cant hit anything anyways... but the point being that they are rare so even better :D
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