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Lexa (BE) Can't someone ban this player?

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Veica:
I hold three main philosophies when it comes to cheating:

1. Players are allowed to be good at aiming and shooting
2. This is a dying game and every player matters
3. Without concrete evidence or witnessing it firsthand, it's impossible to say for certain if someone is actually cheating or if it's a case of point 1

I leave everybody with a haiku I wrote that might help remember some crucuial and important steps:


--- Code: ---Someone you suspect?
Spectate them and hit record.
Send it to admins.
--- End code ---

sup:
I respectfully disagree with point 2, Loon and Kuha don't matter at all.

Thanks

Plakatowy:
Let me explain you something, Veica:


--- Quote ---1. Players are allowed to be good at aiming and shooting
--- End quote ---
This reminds me of Soviet sayings about equality from the last century.  As I wrote in my post: you try to justify dishonest players in exactly the same way.


--- Quote ---2. This is a dying game and every player matters
--- End quote ---
Think about what you are writing. If someone cheats and upsets others, do you think it's ok? Just because "every player matters"? The freedom of an individual ends where another begins. Cheats should not be allowed in any game, don't even try to argue with it. We have a propaganda slogan from the 1930s in Poland: "sugar strengthens" [cukier krzepi], intended to encourage the consumption of sugar for the development of the economy. Your argument is identical.


--- Quote ---3. Without concrete evidence or witnessing it firsthand, it's impossible to say for certain if someone is actually cheating or if it's a case of point 1
--- End quote ---
Explain what you mean by "concrete evidence", because I don't think you understand what this is about. The problem is justifying potential cheaters through the prism of "being good". I don't buy the argument like: "he's just good." No, that's all. Evidence of purity should be provided by an admins that has (should have) the appropriate tools. This is not the role of ordinary players. The lack of any control in this matter and relying on subjective "evidence" is ... hmmm ... outdated? What year is it?

Before you write a riposte (its to you, Veica), use your brain, because so far you have provided me with a lot of excess endorphin flow.  :))

Stealer:
 He is a good player, innocent till proven guilty - standard law etc. He should be able to play on mia servers without being harassed - isn't that like a core mia value? It used to be for T32 :P

Veica meant that spec the player in question and record a video of them.

This seems to be getting a slightly offensive discussion, there is no need for it.
Perhaps we should get a Freon team versus Vctf team to prove a point and play in both game modes? That might help settle things  :D

Could anyone link me some youtube vids of Lexa in the competitive tournaments or just his alias, so I can search myself? I'm just curious, I've played against him a few times, I imagine back in the day he/she was much better?  :o

lol:
You can always disable the chat entirely from showing on your screen, if you don't want to be bothered by other players. ;D


Even in a recorded video it can be hard to see if someone is cheating. :-\

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