You can't kickvote or ban or a player for Rage Quitting.
You cant force a player to stay in game untill he has a stroke.
I have hypertension, I play only when I can help the team and if gets too hard I spectate.
I am not pro so me going spectate doesn't even influence balance.
People winjoin then, when I go spectate cry because of autoswitch to weaker team and somehow I'm the problem.
Hypertension? And playing unreal tournament a fast paced first person shooter online, well that makes sense xd
And the point is if u can't help ur team its fine if u want to spec, but don't join winning team. Its not about pro player or anything, every player counts even a bot :)
I never winjoin except at finish to vote next map and maybe when there's -1 player in the team i'm distributed. That's just he say/she say, theres no proof I winjoin as a strategy, just fake gossip. If you have video proof, post it.
You say if winning team has -1 player that I shouldn't join them just because they are ahead? Nobody does that, you want to play and there's a spot you join. Somehow I get kickvoted and reported because there's a little group of haters where one talks and the others reinforce it but have no problem playing with 2 admins in same team against myneox and sainthapp.
If even a bot counts then rage quitting it's compensated by bot so there's not problem. Maybe you should focus more on catching wall hackers and auto key binders users ... that would make it fair. Bring proof of what you say I do or leave me alone.
Atenolol, 1 single daily oral dose of 50 to 100 mg. Or some other 2nd generation beta blocker.
it's possible to associate with other anti hypertensive drugs
I don't know what the intent is, or what's real and fake, but, it's gonna look weird to people if you join right near the end of a game, regardless of what your reason is.
I might recommend waiting until after the map switch to rejoin. Getting your one vote in probably isn't worth more than having people think you're trying to game the system.
Then again I don't think it's a huge deal either way, but this is a competitive game with a competitive community, so it has to be expected and either tolerated or mitigated. :))
ok
Quote from: [MiA]Latte on August 08, 2020, 01:00
I don't know what the intent is, or what's real and fake, but, it's gonna look weird to people if you join right near the end of a game, regardless of what your reason is.
I might recommend waiting until after the map switch to rejoin. Getting your one vote in probably isn't worth more than having people think you're trying to game the system.
Then again I don't think it's a huge deal either way, but this is a competitive game with a competitive community, so it has to be expected and either tolerated or mitigated. :))
But if you join after map switch when teams are already set, it looks like winjoin in 50% cases.
If the team you are distrubuited is packed with good players and has 1 spot free, you can't expect from a player to wait untill the other team has a spot to join. It would mean you have to wait for 2 players to join the better team so you can get a slot in the other and not be considered as winjoin.
Now that you understand what members of this community think, you should do everything within your capabilities to avoid being labeled a win-joiner. If that means not joining a winning team that is down one player, so be it.
I'm not sure what 'gets too hard' means to you but 'when my team starts to lose' is what it looks like to other players.
Again, I would suggest you avoid that appearance.
Everyone gets frustrated at times and quits when losing, we understand that. We all get phone calls and drop suddenly, we understand that. If you have a pattern doing those items......
Consistency in that pattern is a problem.
Quote from: HandsomeBob on August 07, 2020, 23:15
I never winjoin except at finish to vote next map and maybe when there's -1 player in the team i'm distributed. That's just he say/she say, theres no proof I winjoin as a strategy, just fake gossip. If you have video proof, post it.
You say if winning team has -1 player that I shouldn't join them just because they are ahead? Nobody does that, you want to play and there's a spot you join. Somehow I get kickvoted and reported because there's a little group of haters where one talks and the others reinforce it but have no problem playing with 2 admins in same team against myneox and sainthapp.
If even a bot counts then rage quitting it's compensated by bot so there's not problem. Maybe you should focus more on catching wall hackers and auto key binders users ... that would make it fair. Bring proof of what you say I do or leave me alone.
u want Proof? really? and imo rage quitting means leaving the game, not go in spec and join strong team next round always...i dont know how and what else to say to make u understand...
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Admins are buying in to his bullshit. He is lying in his posts. He picks the team he wants to play in from spec after match starts.
He just wants to be on winning team. He is saying so himself. He tries to be; every single time i see him online. As for his hypertension; its all nonsense. It has no connection here. The problem is his psyche. Also nobody is forcing him to play hard.
There was this one crippled player called AV-Bimmel who had only 1 working arm. He never tried to be on winning team. I myself have undiagnosed cardiovascular problem since 2012. Chest pain, heavy-ness in chest, my breathing goes shallow or stops completely when i try to sleep. Hence can barely get proper rest. Should i start behaving like Vlad ?
Quote from: Joustin_Beaver on August 09, 2020, 11:23
Admins are buying in to his bullshit.
You have no idea what discussions we have or what we're thinking.
His behaviour has went on too long.
I can't relate to those who only look at the team winning/losing as a factor of a good or bad match. My own performance (or lack thereof, more often) will affect how I feel about a particular match absolutely regardless of the total team score. Switching to the winning team when I'm doing pathetically in a game will not make me feel any better.
Win-joining is more complex problem here, I don't see any reason to point out only Vlad for what he have done...most warfare server players don't have balls to join and help losing team, in fact many regular players win-join very often and they don't face the consequences {ex. Duke, Gil - galad, iol, [bms] adler, or even Moi (yes, he does, sometimes, but still) and many many more}. Do they spoil the game? Yes. Have they been warned or punished ? No. So what's the deal ?
You know what hell says: Unless you RQ I cannot have a good laugh :P So, bring it on all you want, hell will chew you until you rq or decide to switch :P
On a serious note, I love tough fights and i know it sucks and I rage when others don't push a bit in a tough game but I guess that is the fun of it ;) You become stronger only when the others whoop your behinds a bit?
Hello and peace from hot south of France :D Will see you in 2 weeks ;)
Cheers
Joustin Beaver is right. I don' t have to force myself to play hard to win every time. I will just relax into spaming aroundand let my teammates to assume the tryhard and keeping score.
Nvm..
Player Sup abusive language for me not winjoining:
https://ibb.co/H4ySDXt
Quote from: HandsomeBob on September 01, 2020, 19:59
Player Sup abusive language for me not winjoining:
https://ibb.co/H4ySDXt
Good job, you just proved that you are a winjoin...
You joined in red team, that was better at that moment, got equalized for the blue and left. At that time the game was tied and you said you left because "you didn't want to be winjoin".
the blue team started to lose, I told you to join. After all, you don't want to be winjoin, right? What did you say? "Nope" and joined the red team as soon as possible, claiming it was the team you had initially joined. In the end you lost anyway, I think you were ashamed to rq after winjoin
now you came here fast to post this "abusive language" excuse cuz you're afraid of being banned
no matter what team you joined, if you left, you need to help the weaker team. That's what a good player does, but of course, your blood pressure doesn't let you do that... ::)
Wrong, liar. I didnt join red, WHEN GAME STARTED I WAS ALREADY RED.
I spectated for a while ( smoking) then rejoined red when IT WAS LOOSING at center node (Torlan).
After that i got autoswicthed to blue, and then when spectate to not be reported for winjoin again by moi.
I rejoined red when was loosing at center because that was my team from the begininng.
Then u came up with ur crying hater bs saying i winjoin red lol.
Also you making other players idiots and lame and making fun of their health issues says a lot about you lol. Hater.
oh god, I'm too old for this
Ok man, u're right, sorry
have a bantiful day
You should apologies for swearing at me and minding your own business next time, old man.
You should stop smoking if you have hypertension, Einstein.
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I ask very little of people - but one thing I do ask is that people be nice....as much as possible.
In-game: have fun. Play the game. Try your best to help your team. Try not to abandon your team too often (I have wife and kids and often have to drop out of games until late evening when they are all asleep)
vlad I have an advice for you please when you join play your matches without leaving I noticed you many times you join then specting then joining then switching then specting..... you do that many times,so please just join and play without these behaviours when you do that you will you will keep out of trouble thanks.
Quote from: Soma18 on September 02, 2020, 14:00
vlad I have an advice for you please when you join play your matches without leaving I noticed you many times you join then specting then joining then switching then specting..... you do that many times,so please just join and play without these behaviours when you do that you will you will keep out of trouble thanks.
How bout you don't condone anymore your hater friend Sup abusive language and do a more objective OP job.
https://ibb.co/gZ5rZxn
Not only he insults other players but has the arrogance to make threats with ban just because you're budddy- buddys.
The only people with ban-hammers are the admins. By and large we try to be tolerant....
Just be nice to each other :)
Man, I'm so proud of u! Keep up the good work!!
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Started round in team blue, said ''brb" and went spectate. Came back after few minutes with score was still 0-0, joined game.
Then server put me in red so I figured to switch back to blue because I was blue at start of game.
I always do this because if I went in the other team all haterz would say i switched team (picked better team) after i came back.
Piglet kicked me because I switched from red to blue saying I should stay where server puts me, meaning I shoudev stayed red even if at start I was blue, and I agree with this, but...
BUT, since my last ban I was very careful to not be wrongfully acused of winjoining, especialy by a group of fan players of mine who hate me a lot and stalk me to catch me with a winjoin to ask for my ban.
If i I would do exactly what Piglet said, meaning to stay where server distributes me after coming back in game, even if at start i was on the other team, would it be considered picking teams, switching teams by going brb for 3 minutes and then rejoining in the other team ?
I would like to know what players who say I am winjoiner think about this.
That's not quite what I said.
I said you should stay where the server put you unless the teams are badly balanced.
What I saw was you join then swap teams. I don't keep track of who needs a smoke when.
You reap what you sow...
Your misbehavior repeatedly makes that when you try to behave well, people find you suspicious
Behaviors like saying "brb smoke" every time you're on a bad team and joining only when your team gets stronger or forcing the automatic switching
But Idk, maybe it's just a coincidence ::)
I'm sure Pig wouldn't do that to you if you were a person who tries to keep the games balanced and fun, but it all comes down to winning for you
So stop self-victimizing, learn to play for fun and you won't have any more problems.
Hi vlad, plz join and don't leave i see u goes to spect and join manyyyy timesss everyday so ppl did't like that, join in the end of map to play the next one and if u wanna smoke plz leave in the end of map i noticed many times that u say brb smoke after the new map started. Thanks.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ziDQbXo0CiSLVxYR_fNxRgltygzWGGtf/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zteGOP7CIDYq5L2YBYSr1UmcQkt6oaqU/view?usp=drivesdk
I hope we don't see that again thanks
Quote from: Soma18 on November 01, 2020, 22:52
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ziDQbXo0CiSLVxYR_fNxRgltygzWGGtf/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zteGOP7CIDYq5L2YBYSr1UmcQkt6oaqU/view?usp=drivesdk
I hope we don't see that again thanks
You mean rage quitting? Is it forbidden? Make a a clear rule if so, don't just order me to not leave game just because ... while everyone else does it continously. I never heard of game where u are FORCED to stay in game untill end just because...
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You mean rage quitting? Is it forbidden? Make a a clear rule if so, don't just order me to not leave game just because ... while everyone else does it continously. I never heard of game where u are FORCED to stay in game untill end just because...
Man, stop being cynical
Everyone knows your behavior
Quote from: HandsomeBob on November 01, 2020, 21:44
Started round in team blue, said ''brb" and went spectate. Came back after few minutes with score was still 0-0, joined game.
Then server put me in red so I figured to switch back to blue because I was blue at start of game.
I always do this because if I went in the other team all haterz would say i switched team (picked better team) after i came back.
Piglet kicked me because I switched from red to blue saying I should stay where server puts me, meaning I shoudev stayed red even if at start I was blue, and I agree with this, but...
BUT, since my last ban I was very careful to not be wrongfully acused of winjoining, especialy by a group of fan players of mine who hate me a lot and stalk me to catch me with a winjoin to ask for my ban.
If i I would do exactly what Piglet said, meaning to stay where server distributes me after coming back in game, even if at start i was on the other team, would it be considered picking teams, switching teams by going brb for 3 minutes and then rejoining in the other team ?
I would like to know what players who say I am winjoiner think about this.
if your put in a team by a server stay in it, but when u go in spec, your team which server put u does not count anymore just make sure u join the weaker team if its 0-0 or losing team...its simple logic
You are doing that since months now which i noted
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i just hope i dont need to send anymore of these again...
Yeah lol rage quitting is forbidden, u can always leave because your team is weak u should help them until the end and not everyone does it. This is a game u can't always win bro. When u get strong team and u win 5-0 thats ok for u, u have no problem with that and u feel happy but u lose 5-0 oh no thats bad i have to rq or yo get so angry u r the most players who goes to spect and joins again...
Rage quitting isn't forbidden. Nobody's making you play.
However, try giving yourself smaller goals if you start getting annoyed: One frag of the player that's been getting you. One cap. One "kill the flag carrier". One support a team member being shot at.....
Quote from: sup on November 01, 2020, 23:53
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You mean rage quitting? Is it forbidden? Make a a clear rule if so, don't just order me to not leave game just because ... while everyone else does it continously. I never heard of game where u are FORCED to stay in game untill end just because...
Man, stop being cynical
Everyone knows your behavior
No, this is what's cynical:
I play daily and even if i don't have a dosier on everybody like worldismental, I can say without a doubt that at least half of top 50 player from gametracker ( those who really influence the outcame of a round), are winjoining, picking teams, going speactate when loosing, ragequitiing, using xray wall hacks at need and so on. I could name them easily but I won't because i know it's not their fault im the only one who gets scrutinized.
It's cynical in this context to pick on me when i leave game from time to time because it's no fun at all to be completley dominated. Even when i choose to play just for bigger score and not care about team and win, it's imposible to have fun and all seems like a waste of time. More so when knowing that i never winjoin and see better players than me winjoining already fully packed team with top players.
This is what I typed at the time:
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21:04 <Piglet (UK)> I think you should remain where the server puts you unless you see the teams badly misblaanced
No, I don't think many players are cheating. Except when they shoot me.
If you think people are cheating, record them as high resolution as you can, upload it, and let us know what you see and the times you see it.
Anyone found cheating will be banned. There have been a few.
Remember we're using ping compensation based around UTCOMP code taken from Freon and then adapted by us. It helps high pingers and sometimes gives rise to shots hitting which look like misses to you.
Phew thought this was about me for a sec. I had to leave, a while ago, I apologised and left, so that the bot would have enough time to spawn. I didn't want to leave teams disadvantaged due to other commitments. Think Hagis was on the server (cool name by the way, not that keen on it as food, but hey). Peace.
As for the stronger teams, I have no idea, everyones names are different to last I saw, although churchofZ seems pretty kickass :)
Quote from: Stealer on November 02, 2020, 23:10
although churchofZ seems pretty kickass :)
That's ZEUS
Zeus.T32? Not sure I remember that one. Regardless seemed very good, as good as Dawkins/Thor? My perspective is somewhat diminished till I can relearn what my weapon keys are, think I reset them to what they were 10 years ago, just outta practise, maybe :)
(soz rambling)
GLHF all!
Quote from: Harris on August 09, 2020, 23:12
[...]many regular players win-join very often and they don't face the consequences {ex. Duke, Gil - galad, iol, [bms] adler, or even Moi (yes, he does, sometimes, but still) and many many more}.
That's not a nice allegation, as i NEVER do it. As I (almost) never RQ either. I can't let you say this. I never choose which team I join. I do not loom lurking in spectator mode or the like to decide how to rig the match in my favor or to make it unfavorable to other players.
I join the team that that the server sends me to, winning or loosing, which I think is the fairest thing to do given the lack of team balancer.
I do not appreciate to be regularly wrongly brought into accusation and complaints that are not deserved and unfounded.
On a general context, just give the team you are playing with a FAIR and LOYAL and reasonably COMMITTED participation. If you won't do it, if your heart cannot do that, you also can choose to play Minecraft. Or just don't take it to the heart (hem) when the guys of the other side beat you and your team. Ease up your self-consciousness about loosing. Play for fun, not to compare dicks.
Chill Gil, don't take it personally, as it wasn't my aim to insult you. Just keep in mind that even if you join the team that the server sends you to, many players, especially those who constantly complain about unbalanced teams (there are many on the warfare server...), take it as a winjoin attempt if the server sends you to winning team.
Compare the warfare players' attitude to the freon players' attitude. Generally freon players respect each other unlike warfare players. Most freon players play for fun, they don't complain about unbalanced teams unlike warfare players. Most freon players don't show their disappointment when they loose any match by insulting teammates, unlike many warfare players. I have never seen any toxic players while playing freon (Slayer is an exception :) ), whereas warfare server is stacked with toxic players. Some of them looks for attention and spam the chatbox during the match, some of them pick their team because they don't like somone on the opposite team, some of them winjoin because they want to do that, some of them insult each other after loosing the match, some of them...etc.
Not so long ago I've made a small test. I changed my style of playing and started to frag people instead of chasing the flag. I didn't have to wait long for feedback, 2 or 3 matches later some people started insulting and degrading me, and of course blaming me for loosing the match, even tho I had the highest score in the match. And of course, some players react badly when they see (PL) at the end of the nick, so they always have something to say about Poland and Poles. Draw a conclusion of this story.
Quote from: Harris on May 18, 2021, 13:48Most freon players play for fun, they don't complain about unbalanced teams unlike warfare players.
Freon has a balancer which generally works OK - but not well enough for my liking. People moan about it all the time! There was a match yesterday where the teams were left just under 2 points per round average different and the balancer didn't fix it. I need to re-visit the code to add in some debug to find out why
When it's working well you get very even teams. That works well for Freon, but I do wonder if entirely balanced teams on vCTF would result in utter stalemate.
Quote from: Harris on May 18, 2021, 13:48
Not so long ago I've made a small test. I changed my style of playing and started to frag people instead of chasing the flag. I didn't have to wait long for feedback, 2 or 3 matches later some people started insulting and degrading me, and of course blaming me for loosing the match, even tho I had the highest score in the match. And of course, some players react badly when they see (PL) at the end of the nick, so they always have something to say about Poland and Poles. Draw a conclusion of this story.
someone insults you? wow ???