Hi,
Since I have been reading a lot of whining about top players like Quadro ensuring that his team wins, I wanted to know if anyone is interested in improving their game so such whining is not required.
I was wondering of forming a tight group of good players who can be in 1 team together under my command vs team Quadro /Ender/Kuha etc etc.
I have been playing this shit for ages and strategy is in my blood. So, I need players who can use intel and actually react than run around like noobs.
The idea is to do outstanding teamwork and increase the chances of winning. However, the condition for being in my team is to do what I say as then everyone knows what each other is doing and hence the attack and defending is much more coordinated like a modern army. Why I say under my command is because my situational awareness in the game is much much higher than most players. I can predict much ahead what players like quadro will do but since the grandfathers here would not use discord, I often lose time typing which costs the flag.
Hence, the idea is to form my own private army of friends who will be deadly and kickass.
I propose my most natural teammates:
1. Caracal - All rounder
2. Khyado - All rounder
3. Kuha --Attacker
4. Hell - Attacker
I need people like BRS who can defend like hell (2 in number) and 1-2 more good attackers like Ender :)
Anyone wants to join and then we can maybe have matches of Team hell vs team Quadro /others and I will upload these games for memories and improvement purpose who genuinely wants to improve their game.
Please remember:
1. The purpose is to win by teamwork over voice. No voice no join.
2. You should accept to be lead by me (Eg: If I ask for wingman on manta, I should have that in less than 5 seconds. Not because I am a dictator but because maybe the tank is down and a window of attack is only 5 sec :) )
3. Do not change roles unless I tell you no matter what happens to the score. (Eg: After losing 1 flag most noobs attack and lose a second lol. Worse, they dont defend until the 1st flag is lost and then the other team camps it out while attackers increase attacks).
Let me know who might be interested in Team Hellfire to burn all other teams alive :D
To the ones who agree, I will teach you tactics which are very much viable in all games (even outside unreal).
Cheers,
HellFire
Wow! You take UT seriously. Hope you are not on meds or something, well, joking. :))
Let me translate what Hell is wanting. He is boosting and encouraging team play to the limit where he is risking being a dictator followed by
huge scope of trolling (no this is not it :)) as he clearly writes, so don't forget it next semester).
Hell is assuming a role of the Sitter, which, I think is cool, since many entities playing on the server need some popping! So go ahead Hell. I hope such tale sends shockwaves in the UT communities 8)
Well translated mate :D I am technically on wrist pain meds if that helps ;)
I take UT as a way to keeping my brain alive and active. But honestly I never thought pro or anything more than past time. I will buy a mousepad as arbok said it will help with the aim. I will also attach a suicide key as kuha pointed. Other than this, I just want tough matches to help improve for the sake of keeping my brain young forever hehe. Gil got a new mouse too. Maybe I will borrow/test a few models to see if it makes sense changing. I want to try piglet's mouse.
Quote from: hellfire on March 17, 2022, 22:02
I need people like BRS who can defend like hell (2 in number)
Hey @hellfire
JL and I aren't defending well? ???
You know .. The redeemer is our friend .. ;D
You know I'm up for it.
JL and Romulus :) Your deemers are legendary and Bania's secret room is ruled by you both hehe. Ty for your defense in every game and you guys make Afghanistan much more challenging and fun hehe. @Khaydo- Thanks buddy. I will ask Caracal to join some "war games" in the test server where I will practice strategic attacks against campers etc before real war in the evenings ;)
i can follow orders if it is to annihilate quadro XD.... also im one of the biggest whinning players so off course i will help, this makes me think again that the best option will be a team selection at the beggining of each game, i know it must be difficult but someone with programing skills could make it.
Wooow so much resentment against Quadro!
He might as well declare he is the Batman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cDZlI0mFSE
Now that's fascism lol
Quote from: hellfire on March 17, 2022, 22:02
1. Caracal - All rounder
2. Khyado - All rounder
3. Kuha --Attacker
4. Hell - Attacker
Sweet list of targets in the game :D O:-)
Quote from: Paul on March 19, 2022, 03:51
Now that's fascism lol
Aha, took me some time to realize that!
They are as hypocrite as they come :D
@tirofijo!! -- You are becoming better each day in making life of attackers hell haha. Join Discord to see how fun it is. Honestly we just chat sometimes about our lives than do pure teamwork. It is fun :)
@Quadro is helping everyone be better haha. This is good and helps keep brains young (or know when to stop drinking lol)
@paul -- Hellfire is democracy lover. Dictator means I will kill you and only you in the game until u join discord :P
@adler -- Just tc of your wrist as you have too many on your hitlist now :D
hellfire if you can create a meta I will gladly play as the last defender for the flag, since I suck at anything else xD
Try borrowing some meta/strategy guide templates from other games and adjust to UT?
(I bet you have played some MMORPGs and you know how important roles are)
Thanks @holyspam :) Indeed roles are super important. I think I purchased a famous game "insurgency" ? where this type of strategy is important but I ended up loving ut2004 more :D . But what do you mean by meta? Metaverse lol?
Quote from: hellfire on March 21, 2022, 14:24
Thanks @holyspam :) Indeed roles are super important. I think I purchased a famous game "insurgency" ? where this type of strategy is important but I ended up loving ut2004 more :D . But what do you mean by meta? Metaverse lol?
meta -> metagame -> the best game possible/ unbeatable playstile/ win in every case, unless opponent is using another meta
Yeah I don't know the exact origin of the word but it's used for playstyles that are the most "viable"
For example trying to win a vctf game by killing all the enemies is impossible, instead you focus on tactics that reward you flag caps.
Each map might have a different meta, depending on layout/# of players/type of vehicles or weapons available.
Every small change can change the most optimised and efficient way to victory.
Some people are so good in team games and they can break down the game into smaller objectives, which can help them create a completely different direction in which the playstyle will go.
Like instead of killing enemies you let them all alive and leave your base, then you grab the enemy flag or something, but in an organised manner, not a leeroy Jenkins style.
Sometimes this can take all the fun out of the game, because everyone copies the best players and the "best meta" which leads to boring and predictable games
Thanks for helping with the def :) (holy and miauz) Interesting! I think I am a fan of meta as when I feel object oriented (c++ mood) I go meta without knowing it lol. Funny I never came across this but again I was never into pro gaming :)
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HELL ! u ganging UP !!! :)) :)) :)) :))
whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy ?! :)) :)) :))
although i love u but... :'( i will be against u bro (... Drama music starts to play here ... )
quaDRO is a DRO unit cant leave him alone >:D 8)
sry brotha ... see u in battlefield :'(
i love u crazy boy :)) :)) :)) <3
I don't know, man. I've always thought that the game is played at such a fast pace that it's tough to coordinate anything - whether it's an attack or cover etc. I've watched some of your streams when you're doing teamwork with Kuha, Kyhado or Caracal and from what I see there is maybe a 5-10% difference overall, not enough to alter the score that often I would think.
Also, if you wanted to do discord on a larger scare this would be even tougher - imagine if instead of 2-3 players you would have to coordinate the actions of 6-8 people. I would really like to see how you do on a livestream later on, though just to see if this can work.
Quote from: duke on March 26, 2022, 20:02
I don't know, man. I've always thought that the game is played at such a fast pace that it's tough to coordinate anything - whether it's an attack or cover etc. I've watched some of your streams when you're doing teamwork with Kuha, Kyhado or Caracal and from what I see there is maybe a 5-10% difference overall, not enough to alter the score that often I would think.
Also, if you wanted to do discord on a larger scare this would be even tougher - imagine if instead of 2-3 players you would have to coordinate the actions of 6-8 people. I would really like to see how you do on a livestream later on, though just to see if this can work.
Well you are right in that sense. It be more about personal satisfaction rather than barking some commands (like on snakes or so). Anywho, no one really knows how to manage clusters of entities who have self destructive tendencies. Breaks my heart though 8)
I think it really depends on the map, how many are in discord and the teams in general. Maps like facingass, venis and bloodbath are pretty close quarters so coordination is limited but the intel still flows. Maps like Summerville & DamBeta you can coordinate easier since bases are obstructed and have some distance so it gives you some opportunities.
With a larger group it would be mostly the attackers he'd have to juggle I'd think since defenders wouldn't need much attention outside of a change.
if you gather enough people for this avanture, it will be possible to create target groups. easier to manage when there are a lot of people
@hydro -- Np :D No matter where you are, my heart will aim at your heart always :D
@ Duke-- Regarding teamwork in discord, the main issue is friendly chat ;) Who does not want to do a bit of friendly chatting and then it becomes jokes or just talk. But when we are serious, I always follow 1 rule: No talk other than intel. No side chat. However, when the number of people increase, then it is mostly chat. I indeed noticed that many times I was not playing as I was more in a chatty mood after work. But there are many games like khayado was saying where discord made all the diifference. Eg: If you tell me which side is the flag runner, then rest assured I will attack ;) So, the 10% stat you quote is for friendly days. But on serious days when we talk only what is needed (the cockpit rule if anyone loves aviation), then discord can be deadly (I used to play counter strike over voice hehe). Try it once duke. Specially we will play 1 day with only intel + no chat rule and you will see the chance inc to 60%!
@paul ---Indeed :) Only 5-6 are enough to become a deadly force. Smaller is better actually as then each player knows what to expect. So, everyone can listen to intel while 6 coordinates the game strat. Honestly I am not a pro but if my life would depend on it, I would go this way to win anything ;)
@all---sorry for late replies. I did not check forum for a few days (work, wrist pain, python coding :D)
and how exactly are you going to interfer with the balancer ?
I cannot :) But even if 3 people are on discord and try changing and manages , that is better than nothing. Sort of what me , kyhado and carcal (and the others who recently started discording) do :)
Just to reiterate words of wisdom
Quote from: Piglet on March 16, 2022, 12:57
For the Warfare server the only time a player gets switched is where the team numbers are off by 2 or more. In that case the latest joining player gets swapped to even the team numbers. That's not changed. There's no new balancer doing that. It's always been like that on the mia servers.
Balancer is only concerned with shuffling of the team at the beginning of map. Whatever shuffling happens during the game IS how it has been happening for centuries, erm....., years! Therefore, please, don't form manipulative clusters because they are no useful, and make the game artificially hard, which is, a simple rubbish effect.
Quote from: hellfire on March 29, 2022, 19:45
@ Duke-- Regarding teamwork in discord, the main issue is friendly chat ;) Who does not want to do a bit of friendly chatting and then it becomes jokes or just talk. But when we are serious, I always follow 1 rule: No talk other than intel. No side chat. However, when the number of people increase, then it is mostly chat. I indeed noticed that many times I was not playing as I was more in a chatty mood after work. But there are many games like khayado was saying where discord made all the diifference. Eg: If you tell me which side is the flag runner, then rest assured I will attack ;) So, the 10% stat you quote is for friendly days. But on serious days when we talk only what is needed (the cockpit rule if anyone loves aviation), then discord can be deadly (I used to play counter strike over voice hehe). Try it once duke. Specially we will play 1 day with only intel + no chat rule and you will see the chance inc to 60%!
Dude you are so tempting me with joining on discord at least to experiment a bit. The problem is I have time to play like 4-5 days a month now and I need 2-3 maps before I get into any kind of groove. I can feel I'm playing at 70-80% of what I used to before, it's just lack of practice, my aim's a lot worse and it affects my confidence. I'm still willing to try and help how I can. Next week on a weekend?
I am heading towards your life with the launch of 2 brands hopefully this year ;) I will barely have time to play. Do not worry about aim and confidence. The more you play the more it comes back. Remember we play to enjoy a fight from the couch and keep brains active ;)
Sure let us give it a shot. You will need time to adapt to discord playing specially with calling out directions (since they change from perspective@which base you are looking from).Also many days we actually play worse with discord as people are just chatting and it becomes more fun to just chat and play crap ;)
In short, the only time when we do serious discord are during hard matches and on days when everyone wants to coordinate. I say this, because you should not give up on discord based on 1 day of exp. Eg: Gil joined on a day when discord teamwork was not going on well. So he simply gave up. Same with moi who actually joined long long back just for a day ;) Anyway, see you in any weekend around 6pm onwards whenever you are there. In either case Caracal, Kuha and Khayado are mostly online and they are amazing to play and talk with ;)
What product are you launching?
A juice extractor i think
lol..1 app to solve a city life problem + 1 marketplace which serves a very specific niche ;) and the juice extractor is probably what I will be put in by my co-founders if I write anything about it openly :D I think both these have a big potential and initial response have been positive. So, we are now recruiting a small team and move ahead. For the app, since it solves a city based problem, maybe I will seek public funding but normally I stay away from politics lol.
Quote from: Absolute_Madness on April 02, 2022, 17:04
A juice extractor i think
Lol justice, we need to share that juice extractor here! and your profile pic is looking good :p
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=237qSrTVwE4
Quote from: Killer_XTREME!!! on April 02, 2022, 19:06
Quote from: Absolute_Madness on April 02, 2022, 17:04
A juice extractor i think
Lol justice, we need to share that juice extractor here! and your profile pic is looking good :p
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Thanks HellFire for the sentiment, but my eyes hut in 360p. Let me wait for a day and check it out!
YEAH...this youtube processing time is killing me. I will schedule from now on so on publishing the stupid vids should be HQ. Don't miss that tank ride lol. Rare to last so long and driving was worthy :)
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