It's an absolute joke that this hasn't been addressed yet - I've seen corsica and th3 cheat their way to victory several times on this map and nothing has been done. I've seen players like Asus getting banned for far less than this and these scums got away with it several times. It's one thing to abuse a glitch for fun when the game isn't affected and another to use it as a huge advantage in the game.
I thought that some basic rules applied to the servers, but I see that I'm mistaken. Fix this asap, because when cheaters like corsica or th3 are around it's unplayable. It's a joke that this has been allowed for so long. Either fix the bug or ban these cheaters.
Tbh. I have no idea what you're talking about. Picture says 1000 words.
Do explain the glitch so hell can have some fun before the fix :D
I don't have a picture.
The glitch allows the bender to hide at the very top of the mountain, it's impossible to shoot down by the enemy team + the driver can hit through walls/cave. For anyone with a half decent aim this is huge advantage for the team he's in.
I saw th3 abuse this glitch today, he ended 95-0 in frags. Need to say more?
Anyway, call is as you like - for me this is flat out cheating which I hate with a passion. We had players get permabanned for far less.
Think I found it.
Oh man. That i didn't think of it. That spot is EPIC! O:-)
That said.
Shooting trough walls/hills/floors you normally not able to is considered a glitch and actions will be taken against you.
So you're saying this isn't banned altogether - you can hit people if you can aim them down directly?
They almost parking outside the map. Hence you can shoot people you're not suppose to at that location.
If I see you (Or players providing proof) doing that = (temp) ban
Gosh it's amusing when people can't accept defeat and move on. It's truly not my fault if you are not familiar with the features of the map in question. The bender is not invincible in the spot you are referring to. If you climb the mountain with a scorpion it can be pushed down. Nonetheless if it's against the rules, I will refrain from doing it in the future.
Rule 2, 3rd bullet point: https://miasma.rocks/index.php/topic,931.msg9997.html#msg9997
Just use common sense. If you find yourself in a place where you have an advantage like that and use it you're breaking the rule. Don't do it. If you have to suicide your player to get out then do it.
Of course it's it's against the rules. You should know better.
And never seen this one?
2. No hacks or exploits, such as...
map exploiting for your advantage (mostly shooting through trees in ONS-Primeva
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Piglet beat me to it
Dude don't try this BS with me, cause it's not gonna work. I'm not some noob, especially on lakovost which I know in and out, that you can sugergoat with some weak excuse and I'm gonna buy it. And please don't tell me about accepting defeat, because when we're in opposite teams on this map and it's fairly balanced I don't think I've lost to you once there. So if there's anyone who should learn this it's you instead of abusing a glitch that gives you huge advantage to get a win.
Yes the bender is not invicible, but dude try climbing the mountain with either the scorpion or bender in the enemy camp - yeah I'm sure you won't be bothered by 5-10 people if you want to get there. So what's your suggestion now - should one guy from our team to the same to even things out?
That's it, I'm not gonna waste any more time on this matter.
How is this now talk of the town? I have seen many times ppl use that spot with bender when admins are in the game so is this just one of those topics ppl have ignored for too long?
It would be relatively easy to climb up to the top and knock the bender down as the mountainside below the bender, and the hills around the middle of the map are blind spots. but complaining takes less effort, I guess. About your other point, either you have a very selective memory or a funny definition of balance, but I'm not gonna go into that here.
Regardless, as the admins kindly reminded me, using the said spot is against the rules, thus it won't happen again. Hope ur satisfied dukey ^^
Sure you can park there and shoot forward. You can't shoot down trough the ground that does not exist.
How you have the audacity to still fight your case is beyond me. Getting angry like a thief who got caught red handed and now he's angry at the guy who reported this. Can you stoop even lower?
Plus not that it matters, but I already told you the only way to counter this in a legit game is by the bender in the other team doing the exact same thing, because no proper defence will allow an enemy bender/scorpion to go that high in their base.
Easier to complain, yeaaaah, more like easier to cheat than actually play according to the rules.
Quote from: duke on August 20, 2022, 23:36
How you have the audacity to still fight your case is beyond me. Getting angry like a thief who got caught red handed and now he's angry at the guy who reported this. Can you stoop even lower?
Ye, and I thought that they were really good gamers :'(
Not the point, but the proper way to counter it is to knock it down as I have stressed it several times, what I find amusing though is how you are trying to draw a comparison between me finding a game mechanic and utilizing it and a guy installing cheats, going online and attempting to use them in a live match. That's quite a stretch, even from you. I was in the wrong, yes, but it's not cheating by any means, it's a fault in the map's design, and you are overexaggerating.
And yes, if you make other posts I will have the aUdAciTy to answer you, even though there was no point continuing this thread in the first place, as you've got what you were weeping for.
Those botters found a way to exploit the game too. There's not a lot of difference.
How is map makers inability to not place invisible walls same as ppl using aim bot? I would maybe undestand if we talk about using translocator to teleport between ground and object like flat stairs (wall u walk up, no idea what to call it)and push your self underground but thats still in the end map makers problem as it has been fixed in alot of invasion servers that have normal ut maps and custom. Is head glitch exploit too then as i would think thats not intented way to abuse obstacles to hide behind them. I would not call using external software or code to get aim bot same as using ingame collision physics to your advantage. Is manta caps way to play ctf as the game says u cant drive manta or raptor with flag. So goind on the wind or top of raptor is exploit that i would like to see removed from vctf.
Quote from: Piglet on August 21, 2022, 14:54
Those botters found a way to exploit the game too. There's not a lot of difference.
I see your point, but I don't believe it's fair to mention using cheats and making use of an existing game mechanic - that only applies to one map and has been there for years- on the same level. Hypothetically, if someone used a software to improve their aim drastically, that person would gain an advantage over everyone on all maps and the players could do nothing about it. In my case, although I did have an advantage by placing the bender in a specific spot, I still had to use my own skills to hit the targets and it was very much possible for the other team to kill me, as it would only take a single shot to push the bender into the void, given that the spot is on the edge of the map. Whether people knew or did not know about that is another question.
I understand why this method is problematic and I will not do it again, but similarly to Kuha, I'd argue it's not the same thing as using aimbot. Given that Lakovost++ has serious flaws in its design, one solution could be to remove it from the map rotation for the sake of peace ^^
LOL...Next time duke, you have me on discord. Just send me a text and ask me to take out anyone giving you a rough time :D I will gladly help you :)
Btw, I understand the frustration about this since it can maKe people mad when trying to win desperately. I think the last time ender did this on me, I just went up and pushed him down. Repeated 3 times and he went on to do better things :D
Also, if their top player is busy doing that, then maybe that is an opportunity. Eg: Hell with his bike in Afghanistan vs hell trying to snipe like ender.
Anyway, don't lose your mind over 1 game. I know this map is your kingdom :D
Hell_Fire to the rescue lol
But man this isn't just one game, it started as a one off and then pretty much 80% of the last games on lakovost there was someone abusing this glitch, it's really frustrating to play against and really unfair if someone from your team abuses it too. I had to use invisibility, go through entire defence alone plus do some dancing on the floor to cap and not get shot down. We somehow managed to get to 2-0, but the second the opposite team realized there was no defence needed the entire team jumped on our flag with zero pressure and we eventually lost.
It's one thing to be creative like using the berserk jump in facingass, which obviously requires skill, but this to me is flat out cheating. Even if it wasn't it completely ruins the map.
I'll just keep posting these as we go. Butthurt over being caught red-handed while cheating in an 18-year old game and instead of acknowledging what you did and apologizing you're STILL trying to spin this around like it's my fault. Keep 'em coming, I'm taking zero of your crap. Let the whole community see how pathetic and petty you are:
(https://i.ibb.co/RvW41RS/the33.png)
Well, if you are gonna play the victim card anytime I say 'hax' this is going to be a never ending thread. Ask anyone on the server, they will confirm it's almost my catchphrase. The last line you highlighted was an answear to Kuha pointing out that the other team has you and since I was in the lead in that match, I think it was an appropriate joke, especially after you suggesting that you are a better player in your previous post. Stop being so oversensitive
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Do I have "moron" written on my forehead? It's like I'm talking to a 5-year old who stole candy and is now coming up with some of the dumbest excuses ever and thinks it's gonna work. You know exactly what you're doing, there was more than I just posted. If you wanna go on we can go on. If I did the same thing I would've apologized and the topic would've ended there (assuming I would've even tried something remotely close to that, since I hate cheating/cheaters with a passion), but since you're so butthurt about being called a cheater, then we can go on.
But hey there's some good news - I don't play this nearly as often as before you can also mock me behind my back like a proper high school girl ganging up on me with other daisies. It won't erase your cheating.
Quote from: duke on August 22, 2022, 17:06
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Do I have "moron" written on my forehead?.
You might as well have. I'm not doing anything other than having the audacity to reply to a thread that ur keeping alive. I think I made a solid argument on how what I did was far from cheating, but some people just can't be convinced otherwise. I still maintain that your vastly overexaggerating and if you want to continue making posts, be my guest, you've found your match
No problem, cheater. In the meantime I recommend you find a name for your high school girl gang that backs you up in the chat, you all look really cute together! : *
Also, I think you should check what "audacity" means instead of just copying it mindlessly after me to look smart.
audacity = "rude or disrespectful behaviour; impudence". I could have typed aUdAciTy again to make my sarcasm more obvious, but I assumed I didnt have to. I'm sorry if you are so overly sensitve, that ur taking anything I say as a personal attack, but it's entertaining to see how your running out of arguments so the only thing you can result to are petty insults.
Hahaha that's good. Pretty much calling me a moron while incorrectly using the word "audacity" (I can bet this thread was the first time you saw it in your life) in the very same post and then saying I'm running out of arguments when it backfires. Dude if you want to insult me at least do it properly.
"I'm not doing anything other than having the audacity to reply to a thread that ur keeping alive."
Didn't even notice "ur/your" until now, which is also wrong lmao. Never in a billion years have I seen the word "audacity" used in such context (as for referring to yourself) with 25+ years of learning English, but hey you learn something new every day lol. Next time maybe use words that you know and understand instead of senselessly copying someone else.
Oh and P.S. - you're still a cheater : * now go and giggle behind my back with your high school girl gang, you're really tough when having a 5 vs 1 advantage
Everyone knows Audacity is an audio editing software
You realize with what you are (oh wow did that correctly this time) doing just further proves my point. You have nothing relevant to say anymore, so you are so desperate trying to find anything on me to have the last word that you are willing to fight about grammatical errors. Well, I started checking how according to you I'm 'sugergoating' you with weak excuses, but I realized, that by going back to check your errors I'm just stooping down to your level. I'm all for an insulting contest, it feeds into my ego, but unless you have anything to say that's relevant to the topic this is an utter waste of time.
The topic ended 2 days ago.
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