Hi all, been tempted by the valve one for a few years, was waiting for it to drop in price, very patiently... Just noticed meta quest 2 and seemed to have some good reviews so bit the bullet + Resident Evil 4 came with it :) I couldn't really justify blowing a grand on something I've never used before, when that could get me a nice wee PC upgrade! It came to £350 for 128gb (2 games) and hopefully my pc is beefy enough to run it reasonably? (Ryzen 5 5600x, Asus prime x570-p, ATi RX 6600, 16gb ddr4)
Does anyone use VR? Which one? What do you think of my choice and what would you have recommended instead?
28 day consumer rights, so I'm gonna test it >:D
Save to say dk is THE expert for VR headsets and how to hide them from the wife. ;)
Lol, not sure VR prawn is the way forward tbh :))
On a more serious note I used to play VR games in a dedicated VR arena some years ago. I think they used the HTC Vive and the Oculus Rift, both were fine, but I'd prefer the Vive or its successors, partly also because I don't like the facebook ties of the Oculus.
Apart from playing very casual games with low quality graphics, VR is still in early steps.
I wish GPU makers would focus on improving VR support, performance and input latency instead of stupid ray-tracing.
It seems pretty cool to be fair. Just throwing paper airplanes seems really cool, it really tricks my brain into depth perception. Think I need to adjust the settings a smidge or its taking my eyes some time to get used to, gives me a slight headache after an hours use.
You are both right. On the one hand vr is still in its infancy, on the other hand it is already quite impressive. Check the "walk the plank" game. You basically step into an elevator, go up a skyscraper and well, walk the plank. :D
I was quite blown away by the meta TV (amongst everything else), going on a roller coaster and jumping out of a helicopter with a wing suit. Attempting to get google earth working that might be quite mad.
VR kind of makes me think of the old 3d cinema but slightly more developed. I'll have to check that out Blub! I'm running through RE4 on vr, soo nice to be able to aim like an actual pistol :D
Quote from: Stealer on November 28, 2022, 18:31
I was quite blown away by the meta TV (amongst everything else), going on a roller coaster and jumping out of a helicopter with a wing suit. Attempting to get google earth working that might be quite mad.
VR kind of makes me think of the old 3d cinema but slightly more developed. I'll have to check that out Blub! I'm running through RE4 on vr, soo nice to be able to aim like an actual pistol :D
I get quite nauseous when in VR, but I suspect that will ease overtime with enhancements like for glasses-wearing folk, and maybe like a car sick patch or simply having a fan blowing on you to simulate movement, like when you're in the car and you open the window to breathe in. You need to feel like your moving and not stationary.
Quote from: natewrench on December 17, 2022, 19:30
I get quite nauseous when in VR, but I suspect that will ease overtime with enhancements like for glasses-wearing folk, and maybe like a car sick patch...
Aye, it seems to have got better with time, I no longer get headaches when using them, which was probably due to my eyes adjusting or learning to move my head to view things rather than my eyes (to do with the type of lenses that they use in the headsets). I still only use it for an hour at a time though, unlike the PC screen that I can happily spend a whole day on with no side effects.
I've had my Quest 2 for a few weeks now.
Initially the headset felt a bit awkward and cumbersome, but I've since grown used to it.
One of the best games I've played on it so far is Pistol Whip. I tried the 20 minute demo first, that was enough for me to splash out for the full version.
The music is awesome, the gameplay is immersive, and it's a great workout :)
Quote from: Blub on November 26, 2022, 21:38
partly also because I don't like the facebook ties of the Oculus.
Aye fair play, I made sure not to include my fb profile when prompted by the quest 2.
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on January 10, 2023, 19:23
I've had my Quest 2 for a few weeks now.
Initially the headset felt a bit awkward and cumbersome, but I've since grown used to it.
One of the best games I've played on it so far is Pistol Whip. I tried the 20 minute demo first, that was enough for me to splash out for the full version.
The music is awesome, the gameplay is immersive, and it's a great workout :)
Aye nice one, certainly takes a little to adapt, that game looks pretty cool, I bought a couple: Iron man and super hot vr. Iron man isn't bad, quite funny using thrusters and trying to aim at the same time. Super hot is alright, I just need a bit more room to move a little. Too used to playing RE4 sat down, I loved it on the PC anyway, just a bit more fun in vr, same graphics though. I've got beatsaber as well but haven't tried it yet, other than the intro.
Kinda tempted by one of the boxing ones... Although probably no point in buying more games for me, I have a backlog of steam games that I've got from various sales but haven't got round to trying yet!
Playing the climb 2 at the moment, great game unless you suffer from vertigo or similar issues. Climbing up a cliff or jumping from girder to girder 100s of feet up: is quite hairy, yet the simplicity and mechanics work really well in VR. This also has some of the best graphics I've seen soo far in VR, yet far below current PC standards, it's probably about 12 years behind PC tech (graphics wise)?
Also playing the thrill of the fight, being into muay thai has been slightly beneficial. Another great little boxing game, good workout too once you've tweaked some settings. It's so stress relieving being able to break peoples noses and not get done in the process :)
This headset and controllers were probably a better buy than my gfx card! As blub and Holy said, there needs to be more done to use it through the PC for blistering graphics and just use the headset as a monitor type thing.
Not sure I'd like The Climb. I don't mind scrambling up a Munro, but I wouldn't last one minute playing that.
I lose my balance player the roller coaster games.
I might give Half-Life: Alyx a go now that I've treated myself to a new laptop. The visuals are impressive.
I was the same grim, I'm not great with heights, probably why I always get sweaty palms when playing the climb 2. It's kinda nice to face fears in a safe environment, there is definitely a lot of good cardio work to be had from VR, I recommend it regardless; as Crytek did the original farcry and their stuff is/was still used as a graphical benchmark for PCs :) To be honest I was the same - till I found out who developed it :D
Loved Half life back in the 90s, never really got back into it sadly, I have a sequel to something in half life but I haven't played more than an hour into it before I got distracted by something else :)
Half-Life on the PC was awesome, but Half-Life: Alyx on on a whole new scale.
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on March 16, 2023, 20:45
Half-Life on the PC was awesome, but Half-Life: Alyx on on a whole new scale.
Fixed for you, took me a while to suss the links. You just need to take off the main part of the address upto the forward slash (/).
I was thinking of buying that the other day, but still at £50, so I'll wait for a sale, I think. Most of the games I've played besides Resident Evil 4 and Walking dead seem to be quite small, given they're only a few gig each, I shouldn't be too surprised.
VR is definitely the way forward in gaming, it kinda feels like a jump from 8 bit to 16 bit to me.
Probably the games I've played the most soo far: RE4, Thrill of the fight, The climb 2, super hot vr, VR fishing (I find it relaxing, nice fishing spots).
The standard headstrap on the meta quest 2 is pants, I'm gonna invest in the one the PS uses, a mate recommended it. Although it might be better if I get a metal weight for the back of mine. As the tech grows it should become much more comfortable and lighter...
Thanks for that...was wondering why it wasn't showing the video image ::)
I can't recommend the Meta Quest 2 Elite Strap With Battery highly enough.
It feels heavy in the hand, but due to the better fitting strap, and the weight of the battery, it's extremely comfortable to wear and is well balanced. I can use it for far longer periods than I can with the original strap. I haven't tried the version without the battery, but would imagine it's just as comfortable.
There are cheaper head-straps out there, but if the battery were to explode, I'd like my widow to be able to sue Meta. She'd have a far better chance of getting a pay-out than she would with some fly-by-night box-shifter in an industrial estate in Shandongsheng
O:-)
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on March 16, 2023, 23:17
I can't recommend the Meta Quest 2 Elite Strap With Battery highly enough.
It feels heavy in the hand, but due to the better fitting strap, and the weight of the battery, it's extremely comfortable to wear and is well balanced. I can use it for far longer periods than I can with the original strap. I haven't tried the version without the battery, but would imagine it's just as comfortable.
There are cheaper head-straps out there, but if the battery were to explode, I'd like my widow to be able to sue Meta. She'd have a far better chance of getting a pay-out than she would with some fly-by-night box-shifter in an industrial estate in Shandongsheng
O:-)
I caved in at the weekend, ended up buying a halo strap as opposed to the elite strap from meta, was only £25, cured the facial pressure issue - I didn't actually realise the arms on the side of the headset moved until I replaced them fitting the new strap :))
Half life is good, upto chapter 4 now - it was on the steam sale :) Headcrabs freak me out more than 20-30 years ago!
Only problem now is the battery runs out before my head gets sore, definitely going to be the next thing to buy for me, again probably gonna go for a knock off, 1/3 of the meta price.
Some of the tricky city level above ^
Cheers for the heads-up, I've just bought Half-Life: Alyx for £19.99 in the sale (which finishes in 3 days time).
If you're not too bothered about being tethered to a cable, you can pick up a 10000mAh power bank for £14 and attach it to the VR with a USB-C cable.
Some power banks are small enough that they can fit in your back pocket.
The Quest 2 battery delivers 3,640 mAh, so the 10k power bank would knock that out the park.
Cool, yeah, I contemplated it (HL), thought it too pricey, then it was on sale the next day or so :)) Nae bother mate.
Thanks for the info on the powerbanks, I'm going to have to learn/investigate more about the power banks before a purchase.
Nearly bought one off amazon this morning, checked some reviews and loads said the product was faulty and had to be replaced - it promptly got removed from the basket!
I recommend RE4 on meta store, think its about 8 gig, same size as old pc version (whole game + extras). Most VR games are quite tiny only a few gig, hence they feel quite short, even the levels on half life are quite tiny compared to the originals, but there seem to be a few that have a game completion time of over 10 hours: RE4, Walking dead.
I've read through a few different steam discussions and the Devs generally seem to recommend if you can to buy the games off the meta store, due to how steam VR works, from what I've also read there are some setting for steam VR to fix most of these, but you mostly have to edit some code etc - fine for PC enthusiasts.
If you want any discount codes for 25% off games (I own) in meta store, holla - haven't tested them yet
- but should be fairly straightforward.
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on February 09, 2023, 21:40
I might give Half-Life: Alyx a go now that I've treated myself to a new laptop. The visuals are impressive.
Aye it's good, although I've got to a tough part with 2 electric stingray things and lots of dead bodies about, I'm not sure I've got enough ammo to take them both out - I've essentially chickened out and not attempted it for over a month. There must be a way of shutting down the on screen display - noticed it displays on both my monitor and the headset, when there is no point displaying it to my monitor (wasted GPU performance).
Got pistol whip yesterday, shall have to give that a bout later. Also picked up walkabout mini golf (crazy golf), seems to work really well in VR; missus loves it.
I haven't picked up the headset in a while, I'll need to hook myself back up to the matrix 8)
Could sure do with a few levels of Pistol Whip to lose a few pounds before my next holiday...the mankini isnt't fitting as well as it should. ???
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on June 05, 2023, 16:06
Could sure do with a few levels of Pistol Whip to lose a few pounds before my next holiday...the mankini isnt't fitting as well as it should. ???
Hehe I know the feeling. Just got mine back the other week, lent it to my 70 year old parents for giggles. Thrill of the fight is the one for me - I nearly collapsed after 3 rounds on outclassed (hardest) difficulty... although that could just be the beer exiting my system :D Pistol whip is good, just not quite as energetic, still cool though - ty for the recommendation mon ami.
Quest 3 just got announced (yesterday) for Fall this year. I'm keen to see the technical specs: it looks like it could possibly be a big GFX & CPU jump - think the vid said double on both 8)
Apple also announced their release and price of $3.5K :D