Miasma Community

Map: http://www.mediafire.com/?canjlj0bc2ca635
Song (Recommended): http://www.mediafire.com/?sp3gd271f2htbxm (Place in UT2004 -> KF -> Music)
Guide: http://www.mediafire.com/?j147knzrq428v7h

Info about map:
- Open map with many different colored platforms.
- 4 different spawns which make the map pretty hard
- 2 unweldable doors for extra platforms
- 1 Spawn is placed at the yellow platform to prevent people from camping ;D
- Song is from the game "Metroid Prime" for Nintendo Gamecube.

Known issues:
- Odd BSP brushes and emitter graphics could cause lag on some PCs.
- The song will NOT be automatically downloaded when you're on the server, so you'll have to download it manually. (See above)

Special thanks to Snipe who has spent his precious time to help me fixing my map and special thanks to Hicks who tested the Alpha-Version of this map earlier (kf-steelbox) and encouraged me to remake it. (somehow) xD

Actually looks pretty nice.

I'll try and play it later, busy right now...

I really like the music idea   :D

Hmm, nice simple map. Better than previous, btw 8)
In my opinion, zeds spawn is too slow - set canrespawntime to 5 at least. And pathing have bugs in some places...

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1664/shot01030.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/shot01030.jpg/)

Zeds encounter trouble with getting to player in that place. Sometimes 1 poor zed comes to you, but this is bad anyway. Here's many stairs in map and you should to know - all kind of stairs is a pain in ass for zeds.

Strange, I've already placed a forced path there....
But they usually continue when you kill the zed on the front. :D

QuoteBut they usually continue when you kill the zed on the front.

Actually, not :D That problem actual for both ice stairs. Zeds get confused and don't understand how get player if he standing there.

(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8165/shot01029.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/shot01029.jpg/)

That's some kind of exploit, I'll look at that later.

EDIT: You were right, I fixed it.
Still not perfect, but it's good now.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ch9csuig49i789s

Can the door underneath the skull get unwelded? I can't see any value on it (pleas keep in mind the welder display is "broken" on my system)

The door underneath the skull has to be key unlocked.

Quote from: Vanico on June 28, 2011, 20:49
The door underneath the skull has to be key unlocked.

The map is not quite complete.
That monolith in the centre, will you convert that to a static mesh, pls.  As I've mentioned not everyone has quad core or hi speed connections.  Also the other weird shapes, and probably the stairs...

The map area is big and open.  Almost everything can be seen at the same time.  Odd shaped bsp will make a lot of lag.

Convert that BSP into static meshes as per the instructions I gave you.
IE: select the blue lines of the object -hold ctrl to select more if there are many different sections-
With all the blue lines of the BSP construction selected > right click > convert > convert to Static Mesh:
Package: mylevel
GroupName: choose a name:
Name: choose a name.
In the names you choose: no spaces, no unusual symbols.  Meaning: use the basic U.S. alphabet.

Next: Open your static mesh browser.  Click the first scroll bar and scroll down to mylevel.  Then click on the static mesh you have just made.  Then right click in map to place the staticmesh.
Note: if you're converting something like stairs to staticmeshes, or something that zombies will die on top of, then, in your static mesh browser at the bottom you need to change the setting of that staticmesh:
UseSimpleKarmaCollision: False
UseSimpleBoxCollision: False

'False' will stop zombies falling thru the staticmesh when they die.

And when you exit UT it asks: do you want to save package0 or 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever = ALWAYs, No.

Finally, delete all the blue lines of the bsp object you converted.  Rebuild so that in the 3d window, the bsp remains disappear.
---you must place static meshes from mylevel into your map, or they will have disappeared the next time you load your map---

I think my tutorials are improving... i hope!!  i usually miss the obvious (but important) shit out XD

I didn't experience some a bad framerate, but ok: I have a dualcore CPU and 2 GB RAM.... maybe it will lag on slower computers...

However, I still didn't find the 2nd key - I hope you haven't forgotten to add it ;)

EDIT:
Alright, I've converted the 2 great sunstairs, the obelisk and the sun to static meshes. :)
Also wanted to convert the whole ice platform, but since substracted volumes can't be converted to statics, I left it bsp...

@N3Cr0 I was wrong, the door underneath the skull is indeed unweldable. But the door behind the green platform is key locked. ;)

EDIT: Also I heard, that creating antiportals helps to prevent the map rendering everything behind it...
Do I need this in my map?

Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ud97uo1mf0ub0vy

Quote from: Vanico on June 29, 2011, 16:12
Also wanted to convert the whole ice platform, but since substracted volumes can't be converted to statics, I left it bsp...

I guess, what you could do is make a large red brush that covers the whole ice platform area, use the intersect/deintersect tools to copy the whole thing, then add the shape again and convert that to a static mesh. Idk if that'll work, though, but consider.

Quote from: Vanico on June 29, 2011, 16:12
EDIT:
Alright, I've converted the 2 great sunstairs, the obelisk and the sun to static meshes. :)
Also wanted to convert the whole ice platform, but since substracted volumes can't be converted to statics, I left it bsp...

@N3Cr0 I was wrong, the door underneath the skull is indeed unweldable. But the door behind the green platform is key locked. ;)

EDIT: Also I heard, that creating antiportals helps to prevent the map rendering everything behind it...
Do I need this in my map?

Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ud97uo1mf0ub0vy

Sry about this xd   The big blue box in corner would good as a static mesh.
And I don't understand why you have those subtracted boxes in a subtracted area (around the ice area)??


In your large open map, properly placed ZonePortals would hep.
http://udn.epicgames.com/Two/LevelOptimizationBSP.html#Zones_and_Portals
http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/Legacy:Zone_Portal
http://www.unrealed.info/forum/showthread.php?518-Zoneportal-und-Scheinwerferbau

The UDN pages don't seem to say avoid placing zps facing large open areas.  The idea of a zp: the cpu ignores that area until the player gets near it.  So place zp faces in small areas away from large areas.

Antiportals are mainly for inside terrain or large staticmeshes.   Terrain does not block CPU view, and neither do staticmeshes.  That means, what is behind a staticmesh or terrain can still be seen by the players' CPU.  An antiportal will stop that CPU processing... because with antiportal there, it sees nothing behind the terrain/mesh.
Make sure players cannot touch the antiportal... EG: bad effect in HappyHour when player camera is with patty at the road spawn: the player inside the antiportal.
Note that many small antiportals can be counter productive - the cpu figuring out what is hidden and is not.  ZPs can also be counterproductive if they are badly placed.

http://udn.epicgames.com/Two/LevelOptimizationAntiportals.html
http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/Legacy:Antiportal

other than technical stuff - the map looks fine!

A little update.

* Fixed Waypoints
* New platform
* Reduced cash

http://www.mediafire.com/?8ati3hr8ondd58m

Just replace the current one.

Quote from: Vanico on July 02, 2011, 20:14
A little update.

* Fixed Waypoints
* New platform
* Reduced cash

http://www.mediafire.com/?8ati3hr8ondd58m

Just replace the current one.

I uploaded your revision!

And the special KF medal for being a mapper!
(http://i56.tinypic.com/33aqx3l.jpg)

Quote from: Vanico on July 02, 2011, 20:14
A little update.

* Fixed Waypoints
* New platform
* Reduced cash

http://www.mediafire.com/?8ati3hr8ondd58m

Just replace the current one.

Vanico your maps are good.  But they have a problem with theme.  For example, a themed Chinese Restaurant - it would look Chinese, or what we associate with Chinese.  A themed English Restaurant would be as ppl expect it to look, etc.

So you're making KF maps, which should also be themed.

The themes of KF would follow:

1/ KF is based in the UK: what does the UK look like?  what are the buildings like?
2/ There are zombies.

But, if you want to move KF to an exotic location like a Sth American ruin, then (in keeping with the zombie theme) what are the soldiers of the DRF doing there?  Reason need to be given.  Believable reasons.

Theme is like reading a war story and suddenly it drops some SciFi on you - I mean for example, UT weapons in KF don't really work.  Cod with UT weapons wouldn't work either.  Most ppl play KF like cod, like battlefield to use basic bang bang weapons.

In making a KF map, or any map, you should remember you're creating and adding to a story.  And ppl like stories to have reasons otherwise the story becomes unbelievable, and most ppl want to believe.  Hence, theme.  Like you go to a Chinese Restaurant run by Estonians, and it's decor is contemporary American - would be novel, but laughable.

Keep theme in mind when you're adding to the KF story, and ppl will feel happier playing your maps.  They come to KF because they like the concept of the theme, created by Alex Quick, the orginal creator of the KFmod.

As I said, your maps are good, but unless you have a damn good excuse for exotic locations, your maps will fail - even if they are excellent maps.

Suppose i should add, maps like box, like Net are pretty generic - they could be anywhere, so they are most probably in the UK and by default comply with the theme.

Awww, yeah... that's the problem with outdoor maps because you can actually see what's outside... :/
Sorry, Snipe... I'll mind that next time...

Maybe they're just crazy archaeologists with weapons while zeds took over the world? :D

More story, more gameplay, more beauty in my maps, I will work on that!

EDIT:
I've tried the map with Hicks, ML, crazzy and Co. today.
It works on the server, maybe too many people caused the crash?

Quote from: Vanico on July 09, 2011, 13:25
Awww, yeah... that's the problem with outdoor maps because you can actually see what's outside... :/
Sorry, Snipe... I'll mind that next time...

Maybe they're just crazy archaeologists with weapons while zeds took over the world? :D

More story, more gameplay, more beauty in my maps, I will work on that!

EDIT:
I've tried the map with Hicks, ML, crazzy and Co. today.
It works on the server, maybe too many people caused the crash?

Well sure: " crazy archaeologists with weapons while zeds took over the world?"  Then maybe add some KF stuff to say Clamely/ Horzine moved there to secretly bred the zs or something like that...

Crashes  - I noticed some crashes too.  Checking KFMod20.log may explain why the crashes.  I think Raj will check the server .log as well.

The archaeologists one was sarcasm ^^
But your idea isn't bad at all... is it too late to change the start post and explain?

Quote from: Vanico on July 10, 2011, 13:41
The archaeologists one was sarcasm ^^
But your idea isn't bad at all... is it too late to change the start post and explain?

whatever, so long as you realize theme is the key, and you say Hicks was helping you so that's good!

Alright. I'm working on a new map now... crazzy came up with the idea, it will be a hospital :)

A hospital... I like that scenario^^
...hope there will be many rooms and maybe some really sick eye candy ;)

NEW REVISION:

http://www.mediafire.com/?canjlj0bc2ca635

- Added many new things! (figure them out!)
- Made a little platform guide
- Contains a solo version without doors!

Guide:
http://www.mediafire.com/?j147knzrq428v7h

latest link for FINAL3

http://www.mediafire.com/?7z9y7cpl88irgk7

cool map
and i need this map's music file

Here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9gpojzkw9t5h6wj