Routing issues

[Miauz55555]

Funny is, that when you route from DE over NL into UK you get anouther routing and have no problem. If you route direct from DE to UK the chance is high you get the problems in the UK.

My connection goes into UK on the first hop with 18 ms .. the next has the problem.

@hagis when you have problems also when you are in UK can you try a IP in DE?
That's the ceonss .. it's sitting next to the backbone in Frankfurt.

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tracert 176.57.141.10

Routenverfolgung zu 176.57.141.10 über maximal 30 Hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms 
  2     3 ms     1 ms     1 ms 
  3     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms 
  4     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  hbg-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.92.214]
  5     7 ms     6 ms     5 ms  hbg-bb4-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.155.135.84]
  6    15 ms    14 ms    14 ms  ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.138.172]
  7    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  ffm-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.114.91]
  8    13 ms    12 ms    11 ms  ae10-0.fra10.core-backbone.com [62.115.9.226]
  9    12 ms    12 ms    11 ms  cbb.fra14.edge-1.et-0-0-1 [5.56.21.154]
 10    13 ms    11 ms    12 ms  core01.fra.ix.fra14.ae2.0 [94.250.214.1]
 11    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  spine1.fra.iw.xe-0-0-30.0 [94.250.214.251]
 12    13 ms    11 ms    11 ms  176.57.141.10

[hagis]

Something to consider - UDP routing from Düsseldorf to a slightly different IP

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traceroute to 80.4.151.146 (80.4.151.146), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

 2  et-4-0-8.edge6.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net (62.67.22.193)  7.057 ms  7.031 ms ddf-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.171.184)  6.780 ms
 3  adm-bb4-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.135.146)  16.285 ms  16.252 ms  16.226 ms
 4  uk-lon01c-ri2-ae-22-0.aorta.net (213.46.175.97)  16.580 ms ldn-bb4-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.134.27)  16.163 ms telw-ic-5-ae19-0.network.virginmedia.net (213.105.23.0)  17.384 ms
 5  ldn-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.120.239)  15.654 ms  15.452 ms *
 6  sotn-core-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.254.85.138)  20.046 ms uk-lon03a-ri2-ae-20-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.117)  12.457 ms  14.782 ms
 7  * * sotn-metnet-3a-lag-55.network.virginmedia.net (86.28.60.194)  16.014 ms
 8  * drkn-bh1-ia1.network.virginmedia.net (213.48.17.22)  20.884 ms uk-lon03a-ri2-ae-2-0.aorta.net (84.116.135.46)  10.837 ms
 9  * * unreal.miasma.rocks (80.4.151.146)  23.640 ms

Maybe switching the IPs would fix the problems temporarily?

humm,.

145 I get avg ping 47 at server
146 I get avg ping 67 at server

[hagis]

@hagis when you have problems also when you are in UK can you try a IP in DE?
That's the ceonss .. it's sitting next to the backbone in Frankfurt.

we might need to conclude my ISP is crap...

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|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                                  archer -    0 |   42 |   42 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
|                             84.65.128.1 -    6 |   39 |   37 |    9 |   10 |   17 |   10 |
|                          63.130.105.134 -    6 |   39 |   37 |   15 |   17 |   32 |   16 |
|           ae1-0.lon10.core-backbone.com -    3 |   40 |   39 |   17 |   18 |   27 |   18 |
|       ae16-2074.fra10.core-backbone.com -    6 |   39 |   37 |    0 |   27 |   30 |   28 |
|               cbb.fra14.edge-1.et-0-0-1 -    6 |   39 |   37 |    0 |   29 |   70 |   27 |
|               core01.fra.ix.fra14.ae2.0 -    6 |   39 |   37 |    0 |   30 |   87 |   53 |
|               spine2.fra.iw.xe-0-0-30.0 -    6 |   39 |   37 |    0 |   28 |   45 |   28 |
|                           176.57.141.10 -    6 |   39 |   37 |    0 |   27 |   31 |   27 |
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[Stealer]

Hagis dude, looks like an internal issue, are you on adsl or fiber?

[hagis]

is fibre to the premises

[Stealer]

Probably not something I can help with, you shouldn't be getting pl on a fibre connection; it means your network is compromised (light getting in where it shouldn't).
Equally could be a nasty virus, run a scan anyway Eat cookies 

[hagis]

it's an ISP / interconnect issue,.

typically I called ISP to complain and it's working ok now when I test it - lol

hopefully it was an issue that's fixed but probably not going to know until peak times in the evening...

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|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                                  archer -    0 |  100 |  100 |    0 |    0 |   10 |    0 |
|                             84.65.128.1 -    2 |   99 |   98 |    9 |   13 |  170 |   10 |
|                          63.130.104.202 -    0 |  100 |  100 |    9 |   10 |   21 |   10 |
|                 ae5-100-xcr1.man.cw.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |    9 |   10 |   21 |   10 |
|                    ae21-xcr1.ltw.cw.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |   15 |   16 |   27 |   18 |
|         uk-lon03a-ri2-ae-10-0.aorta.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |   15 |   18 |   42 |   17 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   41 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   41 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   41 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|sotn-core-2b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |   17 |   20 |   59 |   20 |
|sotn-metnet-3a-lag-56.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |   18 |   18 |   35 |   18 |
|    drkn-bh1-ia1.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  100 |  100 |   19 |   20 |   35 |   20 |
|                            miasma.rocks -    0 |  100 |  100 |   19 |   20 |   35 |   20 |
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[Piglet]

I wouldn't expect pl on the second hop. Is that consistent over time? To other places? That's not acceptable from your ISP

[holyspam]

Looks like *today* the issue is gone

[hagis]

I wouldn't expect pl on the second hop. Is that consistent over time? To other places? That's not acceptable from your ISP

yeah when I called them they took more interest than I expected and said it if happens again they will investigate further

Looks like *today* the issue is gone

yep, has been good all day,. perhaps transient issue now resolved

[Stealer]

Depending who you are with Hagis, I have access to most line tests etc for several isps

[Gil-galad]

Hello,
This afternoon (14th of august), I had no pl, and my usual (normal) ping. I ran the traceroute command again :

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traceroute to 80.4.151.145 (80.4.151.145), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  _gateway (192.168.1.1)  0.854 ms  0.977 ms  1.097 ms
 2  * * *
 3  24.50.174.83.rev.vodafone.pt (83.174.50.24)  14.512 ms  14.981 ms  14.980 ms
 4  ae5-100.ucr1.lis.cw.net (195.10.57.9)  22.104 ms  22.102 ms  22.101 ms
 5  ae45-xcr1.max.cw.net (195.2.31.142)  49.993 ms  49.992 ms  50.282 ms
 6  ae25-xcr3.prp.cw.net (195.2.8.137)  44.030 ms  42.705 ms  42.696 ms
 7  ae15-xcr1.ltw.cw.net (195.2.8.225)  49.481 ms  46.544 ms  46.631 ms
 8  uk-lon03a-ri2-ae-10-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.129)  48.616 ms  48.508 ms  48.660 ms
 9  * * *
10  brnt-ic-1-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.254.42.198)  48.400 ms  47.030 ms  47.611 ms
11  * * *
12  sotn-core-2b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.254.85.142)  49.862 ms  49.217 ms  49.183 ms
13  sotn-metnet-3a-lag-56.network.virginmedia.net (86.28.60.202)  49.188 ms  49.444 ms  49.170 ms
14  drkn-bh1-ia1.network.virginmedia.net (213.48.17.22)  50.171 ms  50.662 ms  50.403 ms
15  miasma.rocks (80.4.151.145)  50.445 ms  50.635 ms  50.508 ms
EDIT : now redone with -I @Adler

[-Adler-]

Hello,
This afternoon (14th of august), I had no pl, and my usual (normal) ping. I ran the traceroute command again :

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traceroute 80.4.151.145                                                                                                                                                    ✔
traceroute to 80.4.151.145 (80.4.151.145), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  _gateway (192.168.1.1)  0.520 ms  0.695 ms  0.852 ms
 2  2.96.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt (77.54.96.2)  12.665 ms  13.038 ms  11.958 ms
 3  24.50.174.83.rev.vodafone.pt (83.174.50.24)  82.236 ms  82.230 ms  82.222 ms
 4  ae5-100-ucr1.lis.cw.net (195.10.57.9)  19.012 ms  19.590 ms  17.325 ms
 5  ae45-xcr1.max.cw.net (195.2.31.142)  49.204 ms  50.060 ms  50.053 ms
 6  ae25-xcr3.prp.cw.net (195.2.8.137)  42.467 ms  43.355 ms  41.616 ms
 7  ae3-xcr1.bud.cw.net (195.2.28.89)  48.846 ms  61.563 ms  56.526 ms
 8  uk-lon03a-ri2-ae-10-0.aorta.net (213.46.174.129)  54.292 ms  54.157 ms  54.149 ms
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  sotn-core-2b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.254.85.142)  51.085 ms  51.073 ms  52.044 ms
13  sotn-metnet-3a-lag-56.network.virginmedia.net (86.28.60.202)  50.919 ms  51.109 ms  49.537 ms
14  drkn-bh1-ia1.network.virginmedia.net (213.48.17.22)  52.500 ms  50.544 ms  52.957 ms
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

use
traceroute -I 80.4.151.145

[holyspam]

-U flag is more appropriate in this case
Unfortunately not available natively on windows

[-Adler-]

-U flag is more appropriate in this case
Unfortunately not available natively on windows

traceroute on linux use UDP default.