Hello everyone!
I played Unreal Tournament 2004 ONS for a long time "back in the days" ,,,, 2004 - 2007.
Before that some years ( 1997 - 2000 ) i played Quake II CTF via Dial In Modem on a Quake server of the technical university in Vienna called "toilet flush".
Now I have seen by chance that Unreal Tournament has received an impressive update due the active support of some tireless UT fans.
I particularly like the new sophisticated levels, the new equipment, weapons and also the shooting speed.
On the miasma servers, you can see very quickly that only people who are dedicated to this game play here and appreciate teamwork based experience.
As always, I'm looking forward to the next game with some like-minded players of my age :)
I'm not the fastest player anymore with the best aim, but I'm going to buy me a 120HZ screen, so probably in the future i get a few more kills :D
bg
Ronftl from vienna ;D
Welcome :) It is always fun to have old timers back. Still the best game for me even after I bought others :D
Welcome to Miasma!!!
FPS gaming on a 56k modem is an interesting experience, thankfully we've moved on since then, however a stacked server running Edge (map) comes pretty close to recreating it.
My earliest 1st person shooters were Quake II & Duke Nukem 3D, Q3 Arena was also a blast.
There are players of all ages here, the majority are well behaved :)
You might want to familiarise yourself with your User.ini & UT2004.ini files (inside System folder). These can be tweaked to make the game run smoother, such as increase FPS, run in 64bit, widescreen, match mouse DPI with Unreal 2004 X and Y axis Count Speeds etc.
You can also extract the maps from the cache to play offline if you want a bit of extra practice. You'd need to add the mutators though.
Happy hunting :)
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on January 22, 2025, 14:03
You'd need to add the mutators though.
You may be able to get close - but some of the stuff runs serverside only.
The other suggestion other than looking for ut2004 tweak guides for your ini files (as noted in the post above) is to try at running either on Linux (see the forum thread about installing on Ubuntu (https://miasma.rocks/index.php/topic,2006)) or create a backup copy of your system directory and try out these patches (https://github.com/aldehir/ut2004-patches/releases)which should provide better gameplay on windows versions later than xp and win7.
Our version of the server code incorporates those Windows timer changes in an unreleased version of the game.If I had the skills to know how to compile the game under Linux, I think we'd move to Linux for everything.
Most of the UT2004 players are old. Plassy being the oldest here I think.
@ pishach
yes I forgot about quake III Arena :D
also many long lasting gaming sessions with countless "dead virtual players" :D
the age is relatively, really important is not to be at the last place at the end of a game :D
@ Grim
the topic with the ut2004.ini is one I have to deal with more closely
because of UT2004 I will soon exchange my 10 year old Samsung 24" for a Dell UltraSharp U4025QW, 39.7" screen and I am curious how UT will be displayed in connection with 120 Hz, the aspect ratio and a customised ut2004.ini.
I will post a few experiences, maybe someone can gain something positive from my HW / SW setup
@ Hellfire
I agree with you that this game has an increased appeal not only because i played it in my "youth" despite my own advanced age :D
In any case, the challenge is still there and is gladly accepted
@ Piglet
I have to read through all the tweak guides again :)
so far I'm happy that my FPS averages 140 - 150 FPS on a 75Hz TFT, almost everthing runs smooth and the ping averages 20-50ms
With the new screen/hardware, the refresh rate and the new display ratio, it will be maybe "more" exciting again :)
Hi Ronftl,
Welcome to MiASMA.
Indeed nice to see previous "retired" players getting back into the originals.
Fast and good aim is also missing with me, should not prevent you to score heavy.
Me, I'm usually in the top middle scores and often a bit above but that is a combination of the team and me keeping to my game plan.
Hell's early YT recordings gave me a lot of info how I wanted to play.
https://www.youtube.com/@Hell_Fire_Back
Still after 2 years playing here there are many things I need to fine-tune O:-) like in Edge as a driver or still need to get better on sitting on the manta.
One thing I still do is trying to be as diverse as possible to develop my (limited) skills.
Like Grim says there are indeed a lot of "tweaks" you can edit in your ini's.
Here are some nice examples of players showing their skills:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOg56M8hdYSKNtk2L-sIbCVNPb6lJBeu7
All in all I hope you will enjoy the battles we will have >:D
If you are not yet on Discord: https://discord.gg/vBfvG4P6
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 12:08
Here are some nice examples of players showing their skills:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOg56M8hdYSKNtk2L-sIbCVNPb6lJBeu7
You might find this one interesting :)
Haha, know Ron, a lot of these recordings are on maps when I need a break or don't like to play so it's a momentum and does necessarily show the best of you...
Hello ronftl , welcome to the best ut 2004 server ever. This is Zacky (CR), veteran player of miasma and the MIA clan (now disappeared) I also returned to UT after my retirement around 2013 and after 11 years I really missed it brother, it was one of the first games in my life and I could never forget it Entering and playing more often makes you better every day, the more you are a good player, see you in the games, greetings...! 8) 8) ^-^
Quote from: pishach on January 22, 2025, 17:30
Most of the UT2004 players are old. Plassy being the oldest here I think.
Nah. Bufty is the oldest I know of on the servers and he's playing Freon. He's lethal with rockets.
@ Grim
the topic with the ut2004.ini is one I have to deal with more closely
because of UT2004 I will soon exchange my 10 year old Samsung 24" for a Dell UltraSharp U4025QW, 39.7" screen and I am curious how UT will be displayed in connection with 120 Hz, the aspect ratio and a customised ut2004.ini.
I will post a few experiences, maybe someone can gain something positive from my HW / SW setup
Is that new monitor 4k? I play fullscreen on 4k Samsung with 1080p resolution 240Hz refresh it look nice!
Quote from: Piano on January 24, 2025, 22:54
@ Grim
the topic with the ut2004.ini is one I have to deal with more closely
because of UT2004 I will soon exchange my 10 year old Samsung 24" for a Dell UltraSharp U4025QW, 39.7" screen and I am curious how UT will be displayed in connection with 120 Hz, the aspect ratio and a customised ut2004.ini.
I have a few devices I move between, but my main screen is an 35" LG ultrawide running at 100Hz (also curved).
I use foxWSFix v2.2.0 which supports widescreen, more on that here: https://miasma.rocks/index.php?topic=1964.0
You can quickly change resolution by typing setres 5120x2160 (or your preferred res')
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 12:08
Hi Ronftl,
Welcome to MiASMA.
Indeed nice to see previous "retired" players getting back into the originals.
Fast and good aim is also missing with me, should not prevent you to score heavy.
Me, I'm usually in the top middle scores and often a bit above but that is a combination of the team and me keeping to my game plan.
Hell's early YT recordings gave me a lot of info how I wanted to play.
https://www.youtube.com/@Hell_Fire_Back
Still after 2 years playing here there are many things I need to fine-tune O:-) like in Edge as a driver or still need to get better on sitting on the manta.
One thing I still do is trying to be as diverse as possible to develop my (limited) skills.
Like Grim says there are indeed a lot of "tweaks" you can edit in your ini's.
Here are some nice examples of players showing their skills:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOg56M8hdYSKNtk2L-sIbCVNPb6lJBeu7
All in all I hope you will enjoy the battles we will have >:D
Hi Right !
the target and the effectiveness of the weapon in the most of the situations are the main problem 4me :)
With the Flak Cannon in close combat 1x hit and the opponent is history
With the Shock Rifle further/medium distance 3x-4x hits (depending on health points) and the opponent may be in the afterlife
Sometimes I'm not sure if it's the resolution of the screen, my reaction, the DPI of the mouse, the ut2004.ini or my eyes :D
Hell's gameplay looks pretty smooth&relaxed, but that's no wonder with a good aim 😉
The situational use of the maps and the possibility to use the advantages with the right team member should lead to success.
The ,,manta rides" as driver and passenger unfortunately end up quite quickly caused by good Shock Rifle or Avril shooters :D
Jumping up on the Manta and staying there after a collision with 'obstacles' is still a challenge.
I always found the battles very relaxing so far and will certainly continue to enjoy them in the future because it's a wonderful stress-reliever :D
But 4 sure its better to go to the gym too, as the lumbar support in the seat alone won't help to strengthen the back muscles :D
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 12:10
If you are not yet on Discord: https://discord.gg/vBfvG4P6
thanks for the invitation, I didn't know discord yet, but I will register immediately :)
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on January 23, 2025, 14:37
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 12:08
Here are some nice examples of players showing their skills:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOg56M8hdYSKNtk2L-sIbCVNPb6lJBeu7
You might find this one interesting :)
was a bit diffuse in style, which might have been due to the re-entry in the game and the lack of knowledge of the maps :D
should have improved a bit since 10.2024 , but there is still enough potential for improvement :D
the knowledge of the strength of the other players and favoured positions certainly also plays a role here
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 15:05
Haha, know Ron, a lot of these recordings are on maps when I need a break or don't like to play so it's a momentum and does necessarily show the best of you...
each of us still has to improve, despite of our advanced age :D
Quote from: Piano on January 24, 2025, 22:54
@ Grim
the topic with the ut2004.ini is one I have to deal with more closely
because of UT2004 I will soon exchange my 10 year old Samsung 24" for a Dell UltraSharp U4025QW, 39.7" screen and I am curious how UT will be displayed in connection with 120 Hz, the aspect ratio and a customised ut2004.ini.
I will post a few experiences, maybe someone can gain something positive from my HW / SW setup
Is that new monitor 4k? I play fullscreen on 4k Samsung with 1080p resolution 240Hz refresh it look nice!
I don't want to buy a pure gaming screen, because I also need the screen for my home office and that's why I'm going to get the https://www.dell.com/de-at/shop/geschwungener-dell-ultrasharp-40-thunderbolt-hub-monitor-u4025qw/apd/210-bmdv/monitore-und-monitorzubeh%C3%B6r
from that point of view, the 120Hz & 5K should not only bring an improvement in gaming and hopefully also relax my eyes :D
Quote from: Zacky backs on January 23, 2025, 17:21
Hello ronftl , welcome to the best ut 2004 server ever. This is Zacky (CR), veteran player of miasma and the MIA clan (now disappeared) I also returned to UT after my retirement around 2013 and after 11 years I really missed it brother, it was one of the first games in my life and I could never forget it Entering and playing more often makes you better every day, the more you are a good player, see you in the games, greetings...! 8) 8) ^-^
Hi Zacky :)
This game has a certain addictive factor, but this is also due to the variety of weapon types that can be used :)
I always find it very interesting how the 'regular players' and the occasional players in the group behave, when mixed up in a new session.
Who knows the strengths and weaknesses of the other players and who uses them to their advantage (of the team) :D
I, for example, already have learned pretty well from whom I have to hide and who is "sometimes" easy to catch in close combat with predictive shots ggg
greetings Ronftl ( real name Thomas )
Quote from: Grim_Fandango on January 24, 2025, 23:18
Quote from: Piano on January 24, 2025, 22:54
@ Grim
the topic with the ut2004.ini is one I have to deal with more closely
because of UT2004 I will soon exchange my 10 year old Samsung 24" for a Dell UltraSharp U4025QW, 39.7" screen and I am curious how UT will be displayed in connection with 120 Hz, the aspect ratio and a customised ut2004.ini.
I have a few devices I move between, but my main screen is an 35" LG ultrawide running at 100Hz (also curved).
I use foxWSFix v2.2.0 which supports widescreen, more on that here: https://miasma.rocks/index.php?topic=1964.0
You can quickly change resolution by typing setres 5120x2160 (or your preferred res')
Thanks for the link / information !
I will take a closer look at the topic when I have the new screen
Quote from: Right on January 23, 2025, 12:10
If you are not yet on Discord: https://discord.gg/vBfvG4P6
can you please repost/recreate your discord invitation ?
thanks a lot :)
https://discord.gg/W5RWGhgH
Quote from: Piglet on January 23, 2025, 18:56
Nah. Bufty is the oldest I know of on the servers and he's playing Freon. He's lethal with rockets.
Said he was 80 the other day - I was like, geez and still nails me quite frequently! Props to Bufty!
Yeah. He's lethal with the rocket launcher.
Question from a relatively young hell: When I become 80, how will my mouse moving be affected (subject to my wrists surviving). Does mental capacity decline with age significant enough to slow down e-sports? Sorry but I need to plan and check if I can do anything to ensure I play UT until the very end :D
Quote from: hellfire on February 11, 2025, 12:30
Question from a relatively young hell: When I become 80, how will my mouse moving be affected (subject to my wrists surviving). Does mental capacity decline with age significant enough to slow down e-sports? Sorry but I need to plan and check if I can do anything to ensure I play UT until the very end :D
If you write off the more mature gamer as being decrepit wrecks, your end may come quicker than you hope :)
While the older gamer may not be as quick as they once were, they can make up for it with guile & cunning. At least I'm hoping that's what happens to me when I become old(er).
Take care of those wrists, let your gf do the work :D
He mentioned the other night that arthritis in his hands is the thing that hurts most.
I don't know his real name or much about him - but after he's talked in-game about his continuing health challenges I keep thinking of him and hoping he's going to get well.
Quote from: Piglet on February 11, 2025, 14:28
I don't know his real name or much about him - but after he's talked in-game about his continuing health challenges I keep thinking of him and hoping he's going to get well.
Likewise dude.
A lot of our older players have gone through hell in terms of life. I won't take names but a few of them shared on discord what they have been through and I never ever say a word if they are not playing like the top guys. In fact I also know of players having survived life changing injuries in accidents and others who have even lived off their cars while gaming. So, in this game, everyone gets to be have the most important thing : a break from shit and a place where u can have fun :) Before I knew their stories ofcourse I would call them 'friends' in game but once I knew it was a humbling experience.
And lol Grim :D My wrists will survive with no self harm done :D The gf is very caring about it :-p