Is There a future date for the new KF patch? just asking :D
I just noticed Gab's post, dunno how i missed it... xd
KF 2.53 The aims:
Add storymode; new weapons; changes to the HUD; new characters; vehicles.
What's happening atm:
For 2.53 Afx0r has scripted KF so that online players can choose storymode or survival mode maps. But I haven't heard anything from him for about a month. Storymode - Horztal for example is a storymode map but atm we're playing it in survival mode. With true storymode players can keep respawning. There will also be objectives for players to reach, and when achieved, dead players can respawn. So there is a survival element, but also a mission element, such as Horztal - blow up the Complex, or Hive, survive... We'll modify Hive for 2.53 so players can respawn.
New weapons for 2.53 so far: glock; dual glocks; blunderbuss; BD3008 9mm machine gun; RPG-7; Browning mounted Machine gun 30 calibre; Ultimax 100 MK2; Pepper Spray; MSG-90 scoped sniper rifle.
Some weapons are working ok, some need script fixes by Afx0r.
Glocks intended to replace current default pistols, with torch attachment. I think they're a little too powerful for survival - there should be some discussion on this. Glocks are semi-auto, 17 rounds... They're working great.
BD3008 also working ok. Probably good for a first cheap weapon for survival mode, maybe cost £200
Blunderbuss, with Torch attachment. Very very slow reload (a flintlock muzzle loader: 1 shot reload etc) but it can drop an FP at close range. But in 3p (3rd person other player view) animation fires a shot as it turns on the torch xd
RPG-7. Probably more powerful than the LAW, but you can carry less ammo. Afx0r has fixed targeting online problem but he hasn't sent me the new code...
Browning mounted Machine Gun. Scripted as part weapon, part vehicle. I can't make it work - Afx0r will rescript it.
Ultimax 100. Has a 100 round magazine and each round has the equivalent fire power of a Winchester round. It's like mowing the lawn, I love that gun :D I think it's only for storymode!
Pepper Spray very cheap, cost about £5. Will stun, stunable zombies, like clot, gorefast. Doesn't work atm - I think it needs 'projectile code...' Afx0r will need to fix it.
MSG-90 sniper rifle, the reload isn't working properly yet. Also needs view shake when scoped. Way too accurate - only for storymode I think :)
The HUD. Changing the fonts seems like a difficult project, but we'll try. Raj has made some great pics for the new hud, and some of his Tag pics would be good to add on the GUI screens.
New Characters:
The new Trader... We only noticed the old Trader doesn't "idle" when people are in the buying area so Afx0r will fix that. There's some back story on her elsewhere in the forum.
Clamely's wife (Patriarch's wife), a new monster. She's a berserker (has knives, clubs). She can 'freeze' players - other players have to unfreeze comrades. When shot she sometimes drops a fake corpse. Fast, and can jump very high. I haven't begun work on her, but I think Afx0r will have made some code already.
Spider zombie, for storymode dark places. I used the gorefast code for him, but I dunno about his ragdoll. I can't make that work. I guess Afx0r will make it work when he does Clamely's wife code.
Vehicles: Code is the main problem for them, but I can make the meshes and animations, np. Vehicles will be for storymode, probably mounted with heavy machine guns. I made a zombie dropship but as yet it has no collison (you can walk thru it) so I'm still working on that.
But a time for completion...??! I hope Afx0r or Strel0k can answer that. I haven't heard from Strel0k for a while but he's interested in Storymode so maybe he'll be helping Afx0r - or the other way around, idk.
Storymode is the main aim of 2.53. So far there's 2 storymode maps, well 3 with Hive.
A storymode map needn't be as complex as Horztal or Hive. The only real difference survival/story is ScripedTriggers spawn monsters, rather than survival, ZombieVolumes.
ScriptTriggers have set scripts, like "SpawnActor" (means spawnmonster) so you don't have to learn script, and you can't break it :) So to spawn an FP, you would just select, SpawnActor and insert 'Fleshpound,' or clot or whatever - it's that easy. Also remember to insert between spawning a monster, WaitForTimer, so you don't suddenly get a whole jumbled bunch of monsters.
If you want to make a storymode map, I can help you out, just ask me.
Remember that for us most of UT2004 is copy/paste. If you want Terrain copy it from someone else's map, then later learn how to make it yourself... If you want static meshes, effects, ScriptedTriggers, copy/paste.
That's similar to how it works with new weapons, I 'sub' the code from another weapon. The problem I have with the MSG-90 is I used KF crossbow code - great scope, but problem is crossbow bolts are loaded 1 at a time, so the MSG loads 1 bullet at every reload. I dunno how to separate bullet (crossbow bolt) from scope code... Afx0r will know.
So yah UT modding, mapping is copy/paste, and fiddle until you get it how you like it...
And that's where 2.53 is atm ??? :D ;D
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/Cochise157/Emoticons/Guns%20Weapons%20and%20Pain/violent-smiley-094.gif)
i think i'm gonna love this
Sounds good.
Well there are so many things that I think we should call it version 3 or at least 2.6 ;)
Ok so i have read the whole thing and well i should say that there are some LOL parts about it like the Pepper Spray xD
That made me lol really hard since zombies cant feel shit , but maybe replace the pepper spray with a smoke bomb? since that would stun them and make them disoriented , ore a smoke granade that can be flammable
Making the 2 boss is a good idea but that brings up a Q in my mind will there still be 10,15 ore 20 waves ? on 10 wave you get the wife and on 15 ( 20) wave the patty rages and starts killing you for revenge.(atleast he has a reason to kill you :P )
And the story mode that you make is a good idea to know better the story of a hive, hortzal.
The vehicle thing that makes me wonder since you have a car in the game will that mean that the maps will be bigger for a little free roaming? since that would be fun :) at some point.
New Traider !!! Epic i hope she will be sexy as hell since the last traider looked like a zombie -.- no life signs at all :S buying weapons from a zombie now that is wrong xD.
In the new patch i hope you will give us new perks :P and why not make a zombie that can shoot at you ? not patty lol :D a normal zombie that has a 9mm ore something like that since it would make the game a bit harder and more playable :P And that all i wanted to say :D ohh one more thing :) Keep Up The Good Worke :) :)
Ohh and maybe put a thing called achievements? just my point of view :)
Quote from: [MiA]Gabriel on November 29, 2010, 19:32
New Traider !!! Epic i hope she will be sexy as hell since the last traider looked like a zombie -.- no life signs at all :S buying weapons from a zombie now that is wrong xD.
That's the new trader:
http://www.themiasma.com/killing-floor-mod-development/guns-guns-guns/30/
Quote from: [MiA]Gabriel on November 29, 2010, 19:32
a normal zombie that has a 9mm ore something like that since it would make the game a bit harder and more playable
Sounds a little bit like the Husk from the retail version (never played it)
Raj suggested a smoke bomb too, also a molotov. I can make them but it's Afx0r or Strel0k who will script them. I'm not sure how a smoke bomb could be scripted, I mean so smoke would confuse the zombies. The molotov idk either about making zombies burn or how that works :/ So maybe Afx0r or strel0k will do the code.
New trader is a psycho freak but fairly sexy. Afx0r suggested she do a sexy dance if you give her money. I'm working on the dance but when i make her bend over to show her bum it splits in half totally, lol, so I'm learning about making characters... argh.
Clamely's wife, Afx0r was thinking of putting her in earlier survival waves, maybe 7 or 8. Seem ok?
New perks, you're welcome to suggest some because I heard no definite ideas from anyone, well, other than they want new perks...
Already there are zombies in KF files who shoot, like the FP with chaingun. I think he should be reactived, if not for survival then storymode. Also a zombie with a shotty. And there is the mine. It's fun, place it, zombie steps on it, kaboom. I think that should be reactived too. Raj wants the chainsaw reactived as well. Personally I think the greater choice of weapons the better.
There was some worry that too many new weapons would ruin survival mode. Afx0r said he would have different survival/storymode trader buy menus. In survival new powerful weapons blanked so they couldn't be bought.
Yep, storymode should have have bigger maps for vehicles. Although a storymode map doesn't have to be big, doesn't have to have vehicles, that's my fault, I like big with vehicles. If you wanna make a small storymode map, cool.
Husk of 'retail version' well no because this will remain more European, probably as the brilliant creator of KF Alex Quick originally intended.
Naming other than 2.53 didn't occur to me. But sure, call it anything. Maybe give a vote as to its name if you want.
I'll do a video of the new weapons soon... Thanks for your interest!
About the perks i think you should make something like a Penetraiting perk that you help you shoot with all weapons shoot through zombies that would be a good perk i think?.
And i think you should balance the story and the suvrival mode with weapons ad some weapons to survival and take some away :) just to balance it :)
Well i think we should name it 3.0 since you ad new weapons , maps , traider, new transport, and a new boss to fight, and new characters to ^.^ .
And i think we should make the waves from 10 to 15 since on 10 wave you get patty and now you get his five and then patty on 15 :) just my opinion.
Quote from: Snipe34 on November 29, 2010, 23:56
New perks, you're welcome to suggest some because I heard no definite ideas from anyone, well, other than they want new perks...
Already there are zombies in KF files who shoot, like the FP with chaingun. I think he should be reactived, if not for survival then storymode. Also a zombie with a shotty. And there is the mine. It's fun, place it, zombie steps on it, kaboom. I think that should be reactived too. Raj wants the chainsaw reactived as well. Personally I think the greater choice of weapons the better.
new perks(i can't let u say that i don't have idea's!)..... you know.... i think you got pretty much everything covered with these perks...(though some things like flame-thrower, law, duels and probably some new weapons don't have perks yet)
i think that specialization in perks might be a nice idea. things like:
mob zerker(zerking of large mobs, quicker swing time of axes and knifes, maybe an ability of getting duel knifes at start of game instead of normal, also not able to carry as much as normal(unlocked by meleeing a lot of zombies))
strength zerker(zerker getting a huge strength boost, and maybe new right click option for melee weapons that takes longer to use but has a lot more strength(like sticking your axe in his head and pulling it out again/piercing trough his body with chainsaw)(unlocked trough a high amount of DPS with a melee weapon))
also things like: long range sniper, fast sniper, head shot sniper, fast medic, return from the dead medic, fully heal medic and i could go on all day XD(and than including the weapons above: flame-thrower(in special flame perk for support?), law(support, explosive perk), duels(commander(or whatever it is) in a small weapon specialization) )
if you want the mine/chainsaw/fp chain gun reintroduced you will have to fix some bugs(like that u can only place one mine per respawn/ you don't see the chainsaw in ur hands/the chain gun FP misses some part of his arm if you look at him from the side)(just saying)
(and this just because i can't let it go.... how about using the same effect like in dontfalldown only than for 10 seconds on the place where the Molotov lands?)
feedback always welcome(feedback, not just "that sucks")
Slim damn you gave me a epic idea :D Why not make assasin perk?
Quotemob zerker(zerking of large mobs, quicker swing time of axes and knifes, maybe an ability of getting duel knifes at start of game instead of normal, also not able to carry as much as normal(unlocked by meleeing a lot of zombies))
Same thing Assasins are fast and stuff :P
:) i like it
of course the names i gave where kind of exactly what's in the tin. saying precisely what it would be, it was more about the effect than about names XD(things like : return from the dead medic, sound unbelieveble crappy)
All hail Slim :D i get god like ideas from him :D
be happy you can help me with MY godlike idea's :P :P :P :P
Well actualy the return from the dead medic gave me an idea of making a deadly medic perk it will heal players but it will poison zombies :)
yeah, i like that too... though it's a bit like the retail medgun.... but the real question is.... do the developers like it?
Ohh ya ... forgot about them :D
Medic revive players, fantastic! And poison zombies, yep, Medic is a little underpowered.
Other specialist perks, yeah flamethrower doesn't have a perk... More powerful berserker, probably. But a sniper is a sniper - could get too complicated - 'head shot sniper,' etc?
The fp with chaingun, I didn't notice about his arm, damn xd. Chainsaw is in the KF files, just a matter of turning it around so it can be seen. 1 mine per person, I think probably 5 would be good.
I made the molotov but I can't get the code working :/ Have to wait for Afx0r and Strel0k to arrive...
Thanks for great suggestions, what we can do we will! KF is your game as much as anyones! Again, thx Alex Quick for the original idea and hard, hard work!
Hey what about assassin perk :D
Hmmm but the D.R.F. or, KF soldiers are all assassins so I'm not sure what you mean.
i think 2-3 expansions on every perk would be a great thing, making them harder to achieve than other perks(as by now, achieving new perks happens almost automaticly. and everyone has all new perks unless u just started)
instead of getting berserker with about 50-100 melee kills(idk exactly) you would get the mob zerker effect(with or without a good name XD) at 500-1000 kills(probably made while under the effect of the normal berserker perk)
how about that?(if you think you can't come up with 15 perks, i think i and other forum members will love to help you ;))
(also talking about this made me remember that getting perks at this time is server specific, not player specific... it would be great if u could change that?)
EDIT: for reintroduction of chainsaw, it probably has to become a melee weapon, so u get run boost?
That would be great. I'm missing that perk level-up system since I have begun playing this game - it holds the motivation for a long time I think.
Quote from: [MiA]Gabriel on November 29, 2010, 19:32
Ohh and maybe put a thing called achievements? just my point of view :)
There already are stats on server (press F3 or F2 or something). Isn't that enough?
Alternatively, I could code a site that would show player's stats, with achievements and stuff. But that would be a quite big project which I don't have time for right now...
I see what you mean about those perks. It's up to the coders if they have time as well, lol - we're all learning how this thing works. Some things are possible but take a long time - other things too easy. Guessing, new perks are probably only sub code and easily modified -I hope- from old perks.
Gab talked to me on xfire about double knives like machetes for a fast berserker - probably can't carry much else and I like the idea. Although after I realized "fast" would be a big problem for storymode - similar to l4dead idea: achieve objectives and revive dead players - so a fast berserker could zoom across a map, which would be kinda 'break' the game.
So probably in one map a player can only choose 1 perk for that map - a lot of thinking needed by players to choose the right perk so everyone can survive :o Perks to encourage players to choose other than berserker are good, like 'revival from dead' medic. Also mappers would have to think hard about their choice of monsters, somehow to slow berserkers from reaching respawn/objectives, also encouraging players to choose other perks, so berserkers don't always have an advantage.
It gets complicated xd.
Quote from: [MiA]Raj on December 02, 2010, 09:32
There already are stats on server (press F3 or F2 or something).
F3
Quote from: Snipe34 on December 02, 2010, 11:41
what snipe said
i wouldn't like a game like l4d at all, the fun of this game is that the zombs don't die with 1/2 shots.
i see what you mean with a fast berserker, though i think that as long as the other perks get things like turrets and heavy snipers, a fast berserker can't be overpowered. things like clots that hold you will be a big concern, also an FP will kill you in 1 hit(2 with armor) and no berserker will be able to take that down(maybe get an FP to go berserk if a fast berserker he targets tries to run away )
i'm completely with the 1 perk per map idea, though a more expanded lobby would be good with it(discussions on who takes what, and of course seeing what other players choose)
though if i had to choose, i would first make the weapons for survival come out before launching story mode+perks(so i don't have to wait any longer for upgrade XD. and the amount of time it deserves will be given to story mode+perks)
New Weapons for 2.3
http://www.xfire.com/video/3c1048/ (same link in shout box)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLJEaAt83RI
Hope you like it!
Quote from: Snipe34 on December 03, 2010, 02:23
New Weapons for 2.3
http://www.xfire.com/video/3c1048/ (same link in shout box)
Hope you like it!
that's on easy right?(please tell me that isn't skilled ???)
ofc thats easy lol :D
you cant kill a clot with 2 bullets :)
Damn the trailer's nice.
But I think the bunterbluss is a bit overpowered.
however: That's some hot things we're waiting for ;)
Cant Wait to use the sniper !!! :D
woaaah!
Cant wait to test that HMG 8)
Hell YEAH!
:-[ To Snipe34,
Nice video of the updates! I have an idea. It isn't an innovative one but you may want to consider it. Can you fix the script so we can modify our characters? Like maybe use a Homer Simpson character like in UT2K4. Or expand the selections of skins for our characters like in KF Steam!?! (KF Steam also has the pipe bomb, M79 grenade launcher, etc...)
Then I finished revising the KF-MahloeehOldTower map. Check it and if you feel it's playable, then can you include it in the Miasma server!?!?? Please. Download link is here (http://www.mediafire.com/?5lxkhn31s67m15w#1).
Nice ideas but i fell like i should give this opinion
introducing new stuff takes a long time
think about it :S
modelling
texturing
rigging
animating
exporting
scripting
debugging
and so on
these tasks are a hell of all ot of work :\
so maybe more sensible requests?
just saying :)
:-[ To Teixas,
Quoteso maybe more sensible requests?
Those ones that I mentioned are very plausible. Besides, the character expansion part is already a feature at UT2K4!
What i meant was some of those requests (maybe) could not be implemented yet without delaying the release...
....and thats BIG maybe
Ich sage es nicht gerne, aber ich will die Coachgun heiraten. :P
Ok...easy...but onehit 2 fps! muhahahamuha muhahahahahahamuhahahahahahamuhaahahahaaaaaa! ???
:D I like the sniperrifle...finaly a GOOD distance weapon...not like the crossbow...honestly, i can´t handle this damn thing ;D
I don´t want to say this, but i want to marry the coachgun!!! :P